Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

TO BE CLEAR....

I am not calling anyone a "Racist." and it does not matter what majority of race works for Obama. All I'm saying is anyone or organization who opposes Obama or his policies quickly gets labeled a "Racist." I've seen it over and over and over again. Even though the person being labeled is not a racist. It's just a tactic used to shut up the opposition.

Just so happen you wind up with the lable more than others. It's just a coincidence it happens to you. I understand.

[MTK]

If you have to clarify why you're not a racist... you're probably a racist. lol

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

New precautions at practice for RGIII

I'm for it!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wow. Just wow.

Either these two are pathological or just incredible schemers.

Mike: Okay, I am going to hide your dislike of RGIII by taking all the heat. I'll let it leak out that I ... not you ... wanted to leave after last year, that I wanted to sit RGIII in Seattle but didn't, and I'll take the heat by benching him and making it look like it's all my decision.

Kyle: Sounds good Dad ... but how about this too - when you bench Robert, tell them you cleared it w/ Dan.

Mike: Oh ... that's good. Gonna throw Bruce in to, just to make it look like a "team" decision. Hee hee!

Kyle: Nice one.

Mike: Finally, just b/c I love you boy, I want you to toss me under the bus by saying you wanted Bobby to keep playing.

Kyle: Ahhhh, gee Dad, that's really cool of you! Don't you think that's going too far though? No one who knows anything will buy that!

Mike: LOLOLOL ... trust me. The sheeple will eat it up. I may come back and find a way to blame Dan for our "rift" but not quite sure how that would work ...

Kyle: I'll get to work on that Dad.

Mike: That's my boy!!

Now this is funny!!! LOL.

Personally I think MS brought his son on board, obviously, to help out his career. I think everyone is making the mistake that MS's scheme and KS's scheme are exactly the same. and the one they implemented for RG3's first year I think again was different ( I like to call RG3's scheme).

I think KS was given the opportunity to show off his scheme the first year and we started not so good under Sexy Rexy. I think halfway through the year or after atleast a few games MS decided to implement some of his running scheme into KS's scheme. Somewhere in there they tried to get Beck who has more mobility to make it work.

Year two MS implemented more of his scheme and brought McNabb into the fold who should have had more mobility and been able to make the system work. Failure.

Year three RG3 gets drafted and with limited time to work with him MS and KS realize they have too much work to do to get RG3 ready in time for the start of the season. Holy cow, no fan would want to hear that nor want to see the "Franchise" QB sitting on the bench because he's not ready. Snyder would throw a fit as well. So the next best thing is use a scheme RG3 knows and can run well.... in drops the Baylor scheme (spread/read option). Yeah some of KS's and MS's scheme was sprinkled but it was mostly the RG3 scheme. Built just for him to succeed. <Exactly what coaches should be doing. Success! Play off run. Injury.

Year four RG3 rehabbed all off season and again never got time to work on all his fundamentals. RG3 is hampered by the injury and brace. Clearly he will not out run the faster DE's but he might be mobile enough to still run the RG3 scheme. First two games proved he was not going to be able to. So KS and MS decide to go back to more of the traditional MS scheme and let the OL block for him creating a pocket. Except between the OL sucking and RG3 not staying in the pocket and stepping up in to it, it failed because RG3 would bail and run sometimes right into the path of the rushers.

What I think is going to happen for the last 3 games is we will see more of a traditional MS scheme and if it shines MS will have the evidence to throw back in DS's face and a reason for keeping him for one more year. If Cousins fails and it just looks as bad as it did with RG3 then no harm no foul MS was out the door anyway.

So what to do with RG3 if Cousins plays better? I'd keep RG3 and use the whole off season to have him study film and work on fundamentals so that come training camp hopefully he can take his place back as starter but if he still has trouble then MS can still use Cousins and keep developing RG3.

No the team does not have a first round pick, but I dont' think they are as concerned as much as the fans are about trading Cousins to get a pick. The team has $36 mill to go out and get vet who is considered a #1 and that would replace the lost pick this year. I'm sure with the bad season this team will have high draft picks in all 7 rounds so they will have the opportunity to pick up someone decent in the 2nd round.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

...Racist.

I guess if the shoe fits. lol.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Please knock off any metaphors alluding to politics and the so-called race card. THANK YOU!

Done. and you're Welcome.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If you're taking the poll results at face value and ignoring the discussion, call it lunch room talk or whatever, but you're missing the point if that's what you're doing.

I for one don't agree with him sitting, I think he needs the reps and he's far from the only guy out there struggling, but a small part of me is glad there's no risk in him getting hurt now.

And I still think Shanny is a rat bastard who could really care less about his health and there are personal motives at play. If he really was concerned about his health he would have sat him down to start the season.

I agree with most of what you said, but if RG3 was able to play I'd say he was playing because of $$$.

I'll agree he needs reps but two things I don't now and that is... was truly MS's decisions to bench RG3? and is playing Cousins a last chance to keep his job? or question 3- are we just show casing Cousins for a trade?

Q-1: Could it have been Snyder who called the meeting and said shut him down so he doesn't get hurt? and let MS say whatever to save face.

Q-2: Could there have been an agreement between DS, Allen, and MS that if he can show it's not the scheme and Cousins plays well then DS will give him the final year to fix this?

Q-3: or was MS ordered to play Cousins to show case him for trade bait?

Some of these questions might answer why MS said RG3 needed the reps then a week later said they were going to protect him and bench him.

Also the field is atrocious. I think it was worse then last year final game which damaged RG3's knee the most and they are expecting more snow this Sat which will not help the field unless they have a tarp on it.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

glad 43% of the forum agree to bench rg3. haha ur "agreeing" with a coach whos getting canned based on that dumb move. way to go boys

Shanny is being canned because of his poor record. Horrible with picking QBs, his historically bad defense, and the worst special teams I ever saw period (including Pop Warner).

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If you have to clarify why you're not a racist... you're probably a racist. lol

LOL, how the crap just got thrown back in my face. LOL

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Shanny is being canned because of his poor record. Horrible with picking QBs, his historically bad defense, and the worst special teams I ever saw period (including Pop Warner).

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

[MTK]

Regardless of what Cousins does the D and ST are still a big mess and Shanahan will have 3 of 4 losing seasons on his hands here. He deserves to be fired for his poor W/L record and these last 3 games aren't going to make up for that.

[KI Skins Fan]

Nevermind. My joke wasn't really funny.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I agree with most of what you said, but if RG3 was able to play I'd say he was playing because of $$$.

I'll agree he needs reps but two things I don't now and that is... was truly MS's decisions to bench RG3? and is playing Cousins a last chance to keep his job? or question 3- are we just show casing Cousins for a trade?

Q-1: Could it have been Snyder who called the meeting and said shut him down so he doesn't get hurt? and let MS say whatever to save face.

Q-2: Could there have been an agreement between DS, Allen, and MS that if he can show it's not the scheme and Cousins plays well then DS will give him the final year to fix this?

Q-3: or was MS ordered to play Cousins to show case him for trade bait?

Some of these questions might answer why MS said RG3 needed the reps then a week later said they were going to protect him and bench him.

Also the field is atrocious. I think it was worse then last year final game which damaged RG3's knee the most and they are expecting more snow this Sat which will not help the field unless they have a tarp on it.

Some people like to visit the assumption room around here, but I've gotta say you're taking up residency in assumption city. Wow.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

RG3 does not play special teams or defense. As soon as the Redskins get down by double digits, it's gonna get ugly. I saw Kirk's quarter Sunday, offensive line looks the same. He took a beating. Kirk is not Tebow.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

How we all might be surprised if MS is NOT fired. If Cousins plays well for 3 games then it would point to the problem being RG3 not the system or coaching.

I hope to heck though that if they decide to keep MS then they gotta, gotta, gotta fire Haslett and Burns and bring in a decent DC (not Morris) and a decent Special Teams Coordinator.

If cousins plays well it will be because the Skins played the Falcons (29th ranked D), The Giants (21st ranked D), and the Cowboys... possibly the Worst defense ever. If he actually was concerned for RG3 or wanted to give Cousins a chance he would have benched him against KC. Except Shanahan knows KC would kill Cousins too so he would look like an idiot, which in my opinion, he already does.

I think this was well calculated move by Shanahan for future coaching jobs for him or his son.