lets discuss the free agents we really dont want and why!

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by That Guy

is that name calling? are we in 5th grade?

look, you're saying A) yeah, so what if other QBs were better, vick missed a season (which is, i believe, another excuse). and you're saying the skins should sign him? seriously? how can you sign him as a temp fix when he doesn't/wouldn't actually fix anything??

um, no thanks.

besides, those guys that developed later on studied playbooks and learned their systems - something that vick's coaches have always knocked him on for either A) no being up to it, or B) thinking he was good enough without the extra effort. That and a few years playing with the prison system good set a good track record for late career success.

Never thought of it as name calling, but I guess it is huh. LOL!

As far as the "temp fix when he doesn't/wouldn't actually fix anything" phrase goes. I happen to believe that our weakness is on the offensive side. Mostly the offensive line, but outside of Moss there is no other reciever production (Cooley not included) and outside of Portis there is no out of the backfield production. I believe that in addition to being a backup QB he could help us those areas as well as be a return man. He would be cheap and he could help so long as we address the Oline. And if somewhere down the line we needed him to fill in at QB he could be an option. He is just too good of an Athlete to not take a "cheap chance on" especially if no one else will. Note: that I am not talking about gimmick plays either. I am talking about lining him up as a receiver and/or using him out of the backfield. If the opportunity for him to play QB arises, then I am confident in his abilities.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Angry

Never thought of it as name calling, but I guess it is huh. LOL!

As far as the "temp fix when he doesn't/wouldn't actually fix anything" phrase goes. I happen to believe that our weakness is on the offensive side. Mostly the offensive line, but outside of Moss there is no other reciever production (Cooley not included) and outside of Portis there is no out of the backfield production. I believe that in addition to being a backup QB he could help us those areas as well as be a return man. He would be cheap and he could help so long as we address the Oline. And if somewhere down the line we needed him to fill in at QB he could be an option. He is just too good of an Athlete to not take a "cheap chance on" especially if no one else will. Note: that I am not talking about gimmick plays either. I am talking about lining him up as a receiver and/or using him out of the backfield. If the opportunity for him to play QB arises, then I am confident in his abilities.

see, that seems a lot more reasonable.

the problem is, i don't think he's had enough experience to be a good enough receiver and i don't think he'd make a great return man (more prone to injuries and he fumbles a lot). I definitely think he has the speed and moves for it, but getting hit repeatedly, holding the ball, and staying in the game aren't really his strong suits.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by That Guy

see, that seems a lot more reasonable.

the problem is, i don't think he's had enough experience to be a good enough receiver and i don't think he'd make a great return man (more prone to injuries and he fumbles a lot). I definitely think he has the speed and moves for it, but getting hit repeatedly, holding the ball, and staying in the game aren't really his strong suits.

Most of his fumbles were as a passer though. Many could have been prevented by tucking the football which QB's do not do enough of. As far as getting hit. He would be taking less shots in those positions. In reality if you think of using him the way that I do. It's worth the risk vs. reward factor. And in the end if he becomes a solid QB, then it's a hell of a bonus.

I appologize if I wasn't that clear at first, I was under the impression that you were aware of my previous posts on Vick in other threads. I was backing up his QB ability on this thread, but I was voicing these same thoughts about him playing other positions on different threads.

[Ruhskins]

Why don't we turn this into the Michael Vick thread? It's been very amusing reading all of this, especially about a guy in jail. LOL.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Why don't we turn this into the Michael Vick thread? It's been very amusing reading all of this, especially about a guy in jail. LOL.

Where have you been? We already have and you a partially to blame.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Angry

Where have you been? We already have and you a partially to blame.

I've been too distracted by the excitement of the upcoming free agency period at midnight! LOL.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I've been too distracted by the excitement of the upcoming free agency period at midnight! LOL.

Aren't we all, but I have ran out of beer and I am creeping closer and closer to the bed. I hope I can make it another hour and 20 minutes.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Angry

Aren't we all, but I have ran out of beer and I am creeping closer and closer to the bed. I hope I can make it another hour and 20 minutes.

Try Red Bull and Vodka, that will keep you awake...or give you a heart attack, I forgot which one is correct. LOL.