RI: Rogers doesn't know how long benching will last..

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Rogers strikes me as somethin as a headcase, though one could argue the way he's been coached could be the reason I guess. That said he's not a shutdown corner against the top WR in football, which sucks because it we don't have anyone else to fill that role either. The other big thing about Rogers is his horrible ball skills, so he can't be a big play type of corner. I REALLY doubt there will be much of a market for him. He'll go somewhere next year but it won't be an impressive contract.

Totally agree w/ GTripp: Blache is a crap coach. There's no reason IMO he should still have a job because his group is definitely not playing up its potential and he's not returning anyway. Fire him and give the best position coach a shot to see what we might have going for next year.

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

[BigHairedAristocrat]

i think ill take a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2011 over Rogers and be happy.

[Monkeydad]

Carlos would say, "After this game he don't play no more."

[Son Of Man]

Hopefully our new GM can convince another team to give up a 2nd round pick in the 2010 draft for Los. That would be ideal!

[hooskins]

First, our D is best against pass because the majority of teams we have played are crap.

I promise you that number will be getting worst as get to the meat of our schedule. Philly made our Pass D look terrible, and Denver(a bad vertical passing team) burnt us with the deep ball.

Dallas is gonna try this several times.

[diehardskin2982]

Rogers is a cancer. He has mentally checked out on this season and is counting the days until free agency. I wouldn't be suprised if he wasn't blowing coverages on purpose to blow the season, he seems to have serious personal issues with the front office.

[hooskins]

See I was thinking he may be stinking up on purpose, but that just doesn't make sense. If he really wants out and he wants to get paid by another team, why suck on purpose? That just decreases his value and desirability.

It just doesn't make sense; I think he is just having a bad stretch.

[MTK]

He's only hurting his own value if he was tanking on purpose. Besides, there's no guarantee he's a FA after this season if the CBA falls through.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by hooskins

See I was thinking he may be stinking up on purpose, but that just doesn't make sense. If he really wants out and he wants to get paid by another team, why suck on purpose? That just decreases his value and desirability.

It just doesn't make sense; I think he is just having a bad stretch.

I don't think he's intentionally tanking it, I think he's a quitter. That would be a bigger red flag for me as a potential employer than poor performance in a contract year because of scheme or technique.

He got benched yesterday NOT for biting on the double move but for completely giving up on the play and jogging while the ball was in the air. That was more pathetic than falling for the move. CB get beat all the time but how they react is what coaches look at.

[diehardskin2982]

I would say that also, but it's like Lavar paying to leave. As long as he see's the field, he'll get paid. If he has a decent year here he would run the risk of us signing his tender. He can go to Atlanta or where ever and have a big year elsewhere then renegotiate.

[hooskins]

Yeah I guess, but I haven't seen him quitting on a regular basis before that. I am not too concerned. I am, however, concerned about how our secondary looks without 'Los next week.

A brick wall, is an upgrade over Smoot.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then please explain why our D is 1st against the pass

Great post. Losing the way have this season can create a mob mentality against certain players. Last week it was Landry, this week it is Rogers. It is so easy to hate your DB's. When they make a mistake the results is usually a TD or something costly. All DB's will eventually get beat. There is no such thing a "shut down corner". It is impossible.
Not to say that some of the complaints on Rogers like attitude, no hands and not living up to expectations are legitimate. These things are true to varying degrees. But he is a very serviceable corner and while he drops many potential interceptions and gets beat on occasion, the guy is a better than average corner. I think the anger and hate on this thread is a bit over the top.
I hate to see another hole created in our lineup that will need to be filled, just because he is unpopular. He have other needs, lets not create another.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Did he attend the "Emmit Smith Learn Speak English Academy"? Heck, I'd say Emmit sounds like he has PHD when compared to Los.

Earl Campbell an instructor there?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

He's only hurting his own value if he was tanking on purpose. Besides, there's no guarantee he's a FA after this season if the CBA falls through.

Yup. If the CBA falls through, he is screwed. The skins could give him either a 1st or 2nd round tender and that's it for him. I don't think any team would give up there 1st to sign him and doubt that many would give up their 2nd. If any team wants him at that price, let him go. If not, Hall and Barnes are the starters and Rogers is the nickel.

I am with GTripp, however, it seems when Rogers screws up Blache throws him under the bus. When Hall screws up, Blache can't kiss up fast enough.

Not a big Blache supporter these days as, I believe, he is responsible for the fact that our defense has players whose strengths do not mesh well with each other (e.g. D Hall, C Rogers). The defense does not seem creative and Blache seems truly unconcerned with manufacturing pressure. To me this defense is underperforming - with its personnel, it should have been dominant against Det., KC & the rest of the 0'fers. It flashed but did not play consistently.

I think Blache needs to go and would be happy to seem him replaced by a G. Williams guy (Jackson, Gray).

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Yup. If the CBA falls through, he is screwed. The skins could give him either a 1st or 2nd round tender and that's it for him. I don't think any team would give up there 1st to sign him and doubt that many would give up their 2nd. If any team wants him at that price, let him go. If not, Hall and Barnes are the starters and Rogers is the nickel.

I am with GTripp, however, it seems when Rogers screws up Blache throws him under the bus. When Hall screws up, Blache can't kiss up fast enough.

Not a big Blache supporter these days as, I believe, he is responsible for the fact that our defense has players whose strengths do not mesh well with each other (e.g. D Hall, C Rogers). The defense does not seem creative and Blache seems truly unconcerned with manufacturing pressure. To me this defense is underperforming - with its personnel, it should have been dominant against Det., KC & the rest of the 0'fers. It flashed but did not play consistently.

I think Blache needs to go and would be happy to seem him replaced by a G. Williams guy (Jackson, Gray).

That would be a good thing.