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Since this turned partially into a WR thread, here's what I hope our priority list looks like with positives and negatives on a few key guys.. D. Jackson-Speed to burn, playmaker, game changer.. Attitude/maturity issues, do you want to give him a ton of $$ and hope he matures? V. Jackson-Complete receiver minus game breaking speed.. Character questions, with 2 strikes do you risk that with yet another player? Colston-V. Jackson clone without character questions.. Long term health concerns and he gets dropsies occasionally. Bowe-Great red zone and possession guy.. Not top end speed and inconsistent effort. S. Johnson-Has all the tools, occasionally puts them all together.. Hit and miss, seems like he has potential to be Portis like character-do we want that again? P. Garcon-Young, productive, nice skill set.. Not sure if he's a product of the system, some drops. R. Wayne-Career speaks for itself, pros pro.. Older, not a game breaker, does he fit long term plans.. Bringing it back to the original thread, any of these guys would be a major upgrade on Stallworth so if there's a question of one of them (or one of our existing top 4) vs. Stallworth, he's the odd man out.
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Explain why Bowe is a Red flag? And Inconsistent? Sorry friend but he produces with ANY QB throwing him the ball. 344 Catches and 35 tdS IN 5 years.. 3 out of 5 years with 1000 yards he's a top 10 WR
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The type of receiver with that ability that I describe we need are in free agency this year: VJax(my preference), DJax, Stevie Johnson, Colston (when healthy, major risk for alot of money), and I think Reggie Wayne might still have some left in the tank. A couple other guys who have some big play ability, but not as touted, Ted Ginn and Pierre Garcon...both have had decent seasons and could be under radar of the top teir guys.
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Bowe is going to cost too much money wise. He's going to be looking for a big pay day. Someone who's really pressed for wr's (Stl) will overpay for what he's worth. Plus look at the history of free agent wr's. Does it really pan out? Randle El, B. Lloyd, Brandon Marshall, Benard Berrian, Anquan Boldin, Chad Johnson, Roy Williams, Sidney Rice...I could go on and on. We've got a guy in Hankerson that can be every bit as good or better than Bowe.
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I think the Redskins front office is well aware of the value of London Fletcher. Fletcher will retire a Redskin and he will probably get top dollar. The guy is too valuable. A team would hurry to sign London Fletcher to a hefty salary to come to their team, regardless of his age because he's such a strong contributor to a defense. Bruce Allen knows this and will make Fletcher an offer that he can't refuse.
The fact that Perry Riley has been inserted in place of Rocky McIntosh is because Riley is a Shanahan draft pick with a great upside. The Redskins I'm thinking will cut ties with McIntosh early in the offseason. Tim Hightower was running the ball effectively before his season ending knee injury halted his season. Something tells me he'll be back. I like Adam Carriker. He's solid and can get to the QB and stuff the run. Last edited by REDSKINS4ever; 12-20-2011 at 03:25 AM. |
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Hightower's return probably depends on what we do in the draft. If we pick up a RB that's a potential feature back, he won't return. If not, he will probably get a vet min contract for one year. Coming off of an ACL injury and with Helu's emergence, it's hard to see him getting a significant deal from us.
Carriker is playing the best ball of his career. That being said, he's a rotational player on a good team so he will probably be back and share snaps with Jenkins. Haslett likes him and he will provide young depth and a consistent effort. Golston & McIntosh-gone. Montgomery-Probably the toughest call on the list. He's serviceable, no more but he's been effective and a huge upgrade over Rabach the past couple of years. I'd guess right now he will be re-signed but may not be at starter money so he can be replaced if a better option comes available in FA or the draft. Polumbus-He'll be back if he's willing to be a backup and take backup money. RT will probably be very high on the shopping list this offseason. Stallworth-I can see him back next year. There will be some turnover at that position next year (Banks, Armstrong, Austin out) and we will be looking for a true #1 WR to pair with Hankerson, Gaffney, Moss and Paul. Stallworth provides, again, good depth at the position. These are all guys who will be solid backups on a good team but not counted on to be starters or major contributors.
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I'm not a huge fan of Bowe either. His effort is questionable at times. I might put him in the top 20 for WRs, but I think we can do better. He could be great, right now he's just good.
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I'm JS the guy is a player and I don't see why some think he's a bad guy
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No to Ginn but I agree with Garcon, he's a play maker
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I worry about signing free agent WR's for big money. I think more then most positions the WR production is a reflection of how good the overall offense is...especially the QB. Mike Wallace & Vjax play in high scoring offenses with Big Ben and Rivers at QB. How would they look in an offense with Rex or a rookie QB throwing them the ball? It's basically just hard to know what you have and what you need on offense until you have a QB that plays at a high level.
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Since everyone here has Wide Receiver Fever, you do all realize that Terrell Owens is available - - right?
Someone said that the Skins "need to get younger at WR". I think there is a more important point here. The Skins need to get better at WR; if they also get younger at the same time, that is a bonus. If you are looking at free agent acquisitions, Wes Welker will be a free agent and he can sort of catch the ball once in a while. Also a real sleeper in the free agent class might be Michael Spurlock.
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