Handful of Owners Resisting Parameters of New Deal

[SmootSmack]

What would we do without you Dirt

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What would we do without you Dirt

Probably be a lot better off.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Probably be a lot better off.

I agree...wait what?

[Lotus]

Dirtbag has surpassed 10,000 posts. Time for a party.

[skinsnut]

I don't like this part:
"require teams to spend close to 100 percent of the salary cap"

Doesn't that mean current cheap team would now be forced to spend more cash on players? Ultimately, that changes the supply of cash for a fixed number of players....basic economics means more competition for players and higher salaries.
That hurts big spenders like the Skins and means cheap teams fans will be happier with new significant talent....but after a few years, they will have to say good bye to their teams as they move to LA for more revenue.

I don't like forcing owners to spend their revenue if they don't want to.
Outspending the competition is our biggest advantage.
Having that advantage removed by legal mandate is just plain wrong.

I'd be pissed if I owned a low revenue team, not having a choice of how much I spent?....ridiculous

[GTripp0012]

For big money, ultimately needs to answer the question "what will he do for me against the pass?" But Soliai can get it done on the interior as a complementary force.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

For big money, ultimately needs to answer the question "what will he do for me against the pass?" But Soliai can get it done on the interior as a complementary force.

I don't know how expensive he'll get, but it'd be nice to have him clog up the middle and free up Kerrigan and Orakpo. I think our other big interior d-lineman can help out in rushing situations, heck, we can put Kerrigan or Orakpo as DEs in passing situations. I think it be nice to have an experienced young DT like Soliai.

[NLC1054]

Nose tackles aren't supposed to run and get after the quarterback anyway. They're supposed to eat blocks and let the linebackers and maybe the defensive ends do the getting the quarterback. Most nose tackles have, like, 1 or 2 sacks a year.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Nose tackles aren't supposed to run and get after the quarterback anyway. They're supposed to eat blocks and let the linebackers and maybe the defensive ends do the getting the quarterback. Most nose tackles have, like, 1 or 2 sacks a year.

And to add to this, many 4-3 DTs and 3-4 NTs aren't very interchangeable. The closest we had to a 3-4 NT on the team was Kemo, and that's a stretch to say this b/c he was hurt and had not played in a 3-4 defense for like 4 years (his previous team was Carolina a 4-3 team). Unless they are willing to gamble on one of the young DTs they drafted or Bryant, I think acquiring an experienced NT like Soliai would be a good move.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Nose tackles aren't supposed to run and get after the quarterback anyway. They're supposed to eat blocks and let the linebackers and maybe the defensive ends do the getting the quarterback. Most nose tackles have, like, 1 or 2 sacks a year.

Agreed, and those players just aren't that difficult to find. Big money NTs have to do it all.

Vince Wilfork doesn't get a lot of sacks, but he makes plays against the pass.

[SBXVII]

No Shadowbyte, I meant it like I said it. Throughout history Americans have refused to take the low minimum wage jobs and hoping by not taking them it would force the business owner to raise the salary rate to a more acceptable rate. However there has always been a group of people to come along and take those job and pissing off the Americans, ie; the Africans ( although forced here), the Irish, the Scottish, the Vietnamese, now since the early 80's the Hispanics or Latin Americans.

Part of the reason owners hire the Hispanics is because they will do more work for less money then the Americans. Sound familiar? Americans not wanting to play a game of football for no less then 4.5 billion. No it's not the day labor job but it sure sounds the same when the players are demanding more pay or a bigger slice of the profit.

Pretty soon the owners will move their teams out of country to avoid paying the high taxes ( the Bills), then we will probably start seeing more foreign players playing for less money. That was my joke.

[CRedskinsRule]

Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Does anyone think that a ruling from Doty (on the TV deals) or from 8th District CoA would derail the process that is happening now? I am just curious because clearly either of those could happen at any point now. Do the negotiations have enough steam to get over one side or the other being handed an unexpected or major victory, such as the DCoA siding with the players or Doty awarding an incredibly small amount?

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

Man, I hope you are right about that!!!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No.

We're almost there fellas. Free Agency is right around the corner. It's like March in July!

Glad to hear you're confident about it. I was thinking that maybe the reports on this snowballed into this unofficial consensus that a deal was close to done, but in reality it might not be that close. In fairness, I've read that mid-july is realistic and anything could still happen.

With all the reporting now giving hope to the fans, it will be a major pr issue if this falls through. Guess that's one more reason that both sides need to get a deal.