Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

Paintrain · 01-03-2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor

Maybe I am crazy, but I see Orkapo and Kerrigan excelling at playing as down linemen, Jackson playing great as a coverage LB... so how about the 4-3?

Starters:

DE: Kerrigan, Orkapo
DT: Cofield, Jenkins
LB: Jackson (O), Fletcher*(M), Riley (O)
S: Draft, Draft

CB: Hall, Wilson

* - If Fletcher retires then it's a camp toss up

I like the look of that front 7.

You are. The 4-3 ship left the port in 2009 with Greg Blache.. We are a 3-4 team now and for the forseeable future.

Paintrain · 01-03-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Because you're forgetting about Keenan Robinson

Also because you're forgetting Jackson is a DE converted to OLB who then you would be converting to ILB. This isn't Madden where you can just go to another screen and change a player's position. Jackson has very limited lateral quickness, especially for an ILB. Not discounting any of his plays but did you see how long it took him to build any forward momentum on his INT vs the Browns?

He's maximizing the role he's playing in the defense but let's quit being prisoners of the moment and making him into something he's not.

12thMan · 01-03-2013, 03:32 PM

Also, Jackson and Rak are almost the same exact size. Rak is definitely more chiseled and is stronger.

The Goat · 01-03-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Orakpo has not been the same sense he did those bad Geico comercials.

That's good shit.

Sonny9TD · 01-03-2013, 03:48 PM

Yes. I was watching number 72 Stephen Bowen and there was a few plays I saw him just give up and lightly jog and lollygag basically. Let one of them take his spot even though Bowen is listed as DE. Either one of them would be better starting over Bowen. Just venting a bit but I'm proud of them so far.

Lotus · 01-03-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Yes. I was watching number 72 Stephen Bowen and there was a few plays I saw him just give up and lightly jog and lollygag basically. Let one of them take his spot even though Bowen is listed as DE. Either one of them would be better starting over Bowen. Just venting a bit but I'm proud of them so far.

I'm not sure that I entirely agree with your post. But you do get 10 points for using the underused word "lollygag."

FRPLG · 01-03-2013, 04:24 PM

I'm not entirely sure we use Jackson and Orakpo the same ways. I think we're using Kerrigan more like we used Orakpo and Jackson more like we used Kerrigan before. Might be wrong though.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-03-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

What?

You can have Jackson and Orakpo on the field at the sametime, his alignment is a little off, but it can easily be done.

I wasnt critical of hte idea of having jackson, orakpo, (and kerrigan) on the field at the same time. His proposal put Jackson and Jenkins on the field in a 4-3 instead of Bowen and Carriker on the field in a 3-4. I think Bowen and Carriker are much better 3-4 players than Jackson and Jenkins are 4-3 players. His scheme put two backups on the field instead of two more talented starters. It also put in two rookies as safeties with Hall and Wilson still our starting CBs. it was a completely stupid proposal in every way.

KI Skins Fan · 01-03-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I'm not sure that I entirely agree with your post. But you do get 10 points for using the underused word "lollygag."

I don't think the 10 points you awarded were warranted because the word "lollygagging" is a baseball term.

Swarley · 01-03-2013, 05:12 PM

pretty sure lollygagging is just English and had nothing to do with baseball.

los panda · 01-03-2013, 05:13 PM

bird-dog

Ruhskins · 01-03-2013, 05:13 PM

Lollygag - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

REDSKINS4ever · 01-03-2013, 05:16 PM

Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense.

Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly.

los panda · 01-03-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense.

Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly.

not much of a buy low-sell high kind of guy, are you?

The Goat · 01-03-2013, 05:56 PM

I don't think we should expect Carriker to automatically be the same player when he returns. He's a bit long in the tooth and coming off a nasty injury, so it won't surprise me if he doesn't regain starter status for the 2013 season.

We already run a hybrid 3-4, switching between 4-3 looks and 3-4 looks pretty regularly. Our 4-3 package could be Kerrigan, Cofield, Turd Ferguson, Orakpo on the line and Riley, Fletch and Jackson behind em. The 3-4 look is Jenkins/Carriker, Cofield, Bowen on the line and Kerrigan, Fletcher, Riley, Orakpo/Jackson behind them.

We can keep both guys without breaking the bank. Orakpo's injury and lack of elite production works in our favor, and Jackson can be kept too.

01-03-2013, 03:32 PM	#63
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? Also, Jackson and Rak are almost the same exact size. Rak is definitely more chiseled and is stronger.

01-03-2013, 03:48 PM	#65
Sonny9TD Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 399	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? Yes. I was watching number 72 Stephen Bowen and there was a few plays I saw him just give up and lightly jog and lollygag basically. Let one of them take his spot even though Bowen is listed as DE. Either one of them would be better starting over Bowen. Just venting a bit but I'm proud of them so far. Last edited by Sonny9TD; 01-03-2013 at 03:58 PM.

01-03-2013, 04:24 PM	#67
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? I'm not entirely sure we use Jackson and Orakpo the same ways. I think we're using Kerrigan more like we used Orakpo and Jackson more like we used Kerrigan before. Might be wrong though.

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Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 36 Posts: 1,092	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? pretty sure lollygagging is just English and had nothing to do with baseball. __________________ doing it all in the spirit of the salary cap!

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los panda Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,230	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? bird-dog __________________ 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 81

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Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,378	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? Lollygag - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary __________________ R.I.P. #21

01-03-2013, 05:16 PM	#73
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,114	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense. Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly. __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

01-03-2013, 05:56 PM	#75
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson? I don't think we should expect Carriker to automatically be the same player when he returns. He's a bit long in the tooth and coming off a nasty injury, so it won't surprise me if he doesn't regain starter status for the 2013 season. We already run a hybrid 3-4, switching between 4-3 looks and 3-4 looks pretty regularly. Our 4-3 package could be Kerrigan, Cofield, Turd Ferguson, Orakpo on the line and Riley, Fletch and Jackson behind em. The 3-4 look is Jenkins/Carriker, Cofield, Bowen on the line and Kerrigan, Fletcher, Riley, Orakpo/Jackson behind them. We can keep both guys without breaking the bank. Orakpo's injury and lack of elite production works in our favor, and Jackson can be kept too. __________________ 24-34

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