What Is Wrong With The Offense?

[irish]

Gibbs himself hired AS to take control of the O. If JG did not want to be in control why hire AS in the 1st place?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

sometimes I think joe's loyalty gets in the way of winning and/or progress.

[SmootSmack]

I think Campbell has shown that he could potentially be our best QB in decades. But I don't think it means it's time

If it will get people to stop putting the blame on Brunell for everything that goes wrong with the team than sure put him Campbell in. It'll be nice to have a new QB to blame

[Daseal]

Kinda like how we were supposed to shut up and go away about the poor pre-season, Tafkas?

[SmootSmack]

All I'm saying is everything doesn't go back to the QB. It's not that simple.

[irish]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

All I'm saying is everything doesn't go back to the QB. It's not that simple.

Since you dont agree with the pieces I think it goes back to, what do you think it goes back to?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

Since you dont agree with the pieces I think it goes back to, what do you think it goes back to?

Many things. Here are a few:

-We miss Springs and Prioleau a lot
-I like the depth we added at WR with Lloyd and El, but I thought then and think now someone like Jurevicius would have fit in better. Ideally our top 3 would have been Moss, El, and Vicius
-Chris Samuels and Dockery are no comparison at all to Jacoby/Lachey and Grimm. Things we may have thought we could do just like the first time around we can't
-Brunell has been inconsistent (yeah I said it. He doesn't suck like so many want to believe but he needs to be more consistent. Same could be said for the whole team)
-Carter hasn't been the playmaker I thought he would be
-Salavea, already an overachiever, has not been healthy
-We played two division opponents on the road. Not an excuse but those are not easy games ever

[irish]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Many things. Here are a few:

-We miss Springs and Prioleau a lot
-I like the depth we added at WR with Lloyd and El, but I thought then and think now someone like Jurevicius would have fit in better. Ideally our top 3 would have been Moss, El, and Vicius
-Chris Samuels and Dockery are no comparison at all to Jacoby/Lachey and Grimm. Things we may have thought we could do just like the first time around we can't
-Brunell has been inconsistent (yeah I said it. He doesn't suck like so many want to believe but he needs to be more consistent. Same could be said for the whole team)
-Carter hasn't been the playmaker I thought he would be
-Salavea, already an overachiever, has not been healthy
-We played two division opponents on the road. Not an excuse but those are not easy games ever

I agree with all your points but they are problems for this year and IMO are symptoms of the bigger organizational problems I highlighted.

I especially agree with Vicious. I really wanted the skins to sign him but knew they wouldnt because he was not sexy enough for this organization. Randal El is another example of my pay before play problem. He had 1 decent year with Pgh (mostly as a trick play man) and therew a nice TD pass in the Super Bowl but was no way worth the $ the skins gave him.

[#56fanatic]

our offense is built to be smash mouth, run down your throat, offense. this finess crap doesn't fit our line. They said it last year, let us attack the D-line, let us run it right at them. Like they did the last 6 games last year. Portis ran his ass off behind that O-Line. to not run on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 was a slap in their face. I think sometimes Al tries to get a little to fancy with the plays. We just need to line up and let them win the game in the trenches. When they start playing that 8th man at the line, that is when we hit them with some play actions deep or over the middle.

Our O-line looked very unmotivated against the Giants. I think that had to do with the calls. Plus, when teams KNOW to HAVE to pass, they pin their ears back and go after the QB. with two good pass rushers able to just rush the passer, it makes for a long day if you are a QB.

Redskin football isn't this crap we did Sunday, its what we did the last part of the year. Plus, with our O going 3 and out so many damn times, the D is on the field a lot more than last year. The D will play better, be fresher if they are on the sidelines for a while to catch their wind.
but what do I know!

[MTK]

My bad I misread the post.

Either way, the MB bashing after every loss is beyond old. I'm not going to even bother anymore.

[Daseal]

Tafkas, very few of us are blaming all of the skins problems on Brunell, but I would easily put him in the top 3.

[BrunellMVP?]

exactly who would be intercepting those passes? Rogers? Ha, not even worth a response. i love taylor but he can't be everywhere (plus he's been beat a few times-which is going to happen).

[Daseal]

While I don't think the relgious aspect alone leads to Gibbs' favortism of Brunell, I think it's a factor. Gibbs and Brunell are very close to each other. They attend church together every Sunday, I've heard have dinner together often (could be a business thing) they have a lot in common, and I don't see Gibbs being able to sit down his boy (who he did spend a lot of money and draft pick on) unless he starts playing like he did his first season here.

[RiggoRules]

You know what, this chatter about Gibbs making personnel decisions based on church is nothing other than religious bigotry pure and simple. And by the way, it has been a while since I've darkened a church door, so I'm not taking it as an attack on my faith.

But I do respect those who have faith as an important part of their life. These attacks are in my book no different than dropping the N bomb. Like every other form of bigotry, it comes from nothing other than ignorance and stupidity pure and simple.

For you rocket scientists who think religion impacts Gibbs personnel decisions, you have to come up with some real interesting way to explain why in the hell Gibbs flew to Kansas to talk Riggo into coming back to play for him.

This talk -- not just on this board, but elsewhere -- is stupid and offensive.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by RiggoRules

You know what, this chatter about Gibbs making personnel decisions based on church is nothing other than religious bigotry pure and simple. And by the way, it has been a while since I've darkened a church door, so I'm not taking it as an attack on my faith.

But I do respect those who have faith as an important part of their life. These attacks are in my book no different than dropping the N bomb. Like every other form of bigotry, it comes from nothing other than ignorance and stupidity pure and simple.

For you rocket scientists who think religion impacts Gibbs personnel decisions, you have to come up with some real interesting way to explain why in the hell Gibbs flew to Kansas to talk Riggo into coming back to play for him.

This talk -- not just on this board, but elsewhere -- is stupid and offensive.

Stupid...maybe. Bigotry...no.

I certainly didn't read Daseal's post as an attack on religion, only that their personal bond (in this case via a shared faith) may be clouding Gibbs decision to play or not to play Brunell. That is a far cry from religious intolerance in my book. No where did I see an attack on religion itself.

Personally, I do NOT believe their common faith impacts Gibbs personnel decisions, but the linkage is obvious enough that I can see why some would question this.