LOL @ Redskins

[MTK]

I guess now we know how the Broncos felt in the SB in '87

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Honestly, the most frustrating part of this is that it made me realize how many times the Skins are on the losing side of:

"______________ hasn't been done in NFL history!"
"Well that really turned the season around for player _____________."
"Record setting day for ________________!!!!!"
"Never seen anything like this in my career!"

I assume I'm like everyone else and watch football every Thursday, Sunday and Monday and never in my life have I seen a team where: some kind of record is broken, a rookie has a coming out party or a vet in a slump gets back on track.

The only Redskins NFL records I can think of in recent memory are the least yards gained in a playoff win (Yay.) and the Monday Night Miracle MAYBE. It's just SO GD frustrating. I mean my cynicism is growing to an all-time high... Randy Moss hasn't had that great of a season, maybe this week he gets back on track with 200 yards receiving and 3 TDs?

THAT, and the third down conversion was actually laughable last night. We apparently can run plays of 2-3 yards on the first two downs, but when it comes to third, it's no gain or worse...

First two statements can apply the the loss to the 2009 Detroit Lions.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Acyually this game got so bad so quick it was actually funny. Not in the funny haha type way just funny as in strange.

It was sad funny...like watching a feeble kid try to play football (no offense to feeble kids). I've never seen our stands clear out so early.

[over the mountain]

yeah, funny in a strangely familiar way. we, as skins fan, really really put up with alot.

even in a relatively decent season for us compared to years past, the team still finds ways to make their fandom question the commitment it takes.

me and the lady met scott edwards around 11 am yesterday whose on the radio pre-game show with larry . he saw us in our skins gear and came over and talked with us for a few minutes. the man bleeds the B n G but when he started to talk bad about balmore i had to cut him off. he said during games at M&T when the wind shifts you can smell the alcohol coming from the fans. i told him that was probably me and my lady.

anyways, he said he was going to mention us on the radio. did anyone listen and hear him talk about craig and coren, a couple of "great" skins fans from baltimore that he ran into? prolly not with all the mcnabb extension stuff going on.

[Jontrem]

Okay last night was obviously bad (understatement) but lets not lose all perspective here. This was 1 single game and doesn't mean anything more than that we were outplayed by a better team. I think few people would not admit that the Eagles have more talent than the Skins do. They have drafted better and signed free agents more intelligently. I never thought this was a playoff team and I do not think Dan or the Shananhans thought it was either. We have glaring wholes on Oline and WR on offense and we need to make a lot of changes on Dline if we are going to continue the 3-4 experiment.

So my thoughts on what we should do going forward.
#1 Keep Mcnabb next year and the following to groom whoever our QB replacement is, this means no getting overly excited and demanding the backup QB play if McNabb starts stinking up the joint
#2 Trade back in draft and pick a Center or Guard first in the draft.
#3 Pick up a TALL WR damnit!!! We need a possesion WR!
#4 Get some more help in the secondary.... know everyone is high on Hall right now but other than the Bears game they have ALL been average aside from Landry
#5 Whatever happens do not get rid of Shanahan...we need some damn consistency with this franchise and that starts with the coach. If Shanahan is not the head coach in 3 years than I dont ever see Dan Snyders Redskins being anything other than a mediocre NFL team.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess now we know how the Broncos felt in the SB in '87

LOOOOOL...our record of 35 pts in quarter in modern era still stands

[hail_2_da_skins]

It was painfully obvious to me, the Redskins were the older, slower and less talented team on the field. I've seen signs of this in the fourth quarter meltdowns but this was the first time since the Patriots Massacre that the meltdown started from the opening play. The Eagles talked trash in warm-ups and proceed to make a mockery of the old men. The Skins looked like they were running on the beach. Now what? Will the Redskin management realize that a total overhaul is required. This team has neglected the draft for too long and its embarrassing to watch a bunch of slow, old men trying to catch fast, young men.

[Jontrem]

Also anyone think it was a bad idea to let Banks play last night?

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess now we know how the Broncos felt in the SB in '87

Yeah, except the Broncos at least made it to the SB.

But that must have been a complete shocker for them to watch. Funny thing is, they thought they had us early in that game, then the giant woke up. You just knew every time we put the ball in the air something great was going to happen. Man I miss them days.

It's going to be interesting to see how Shanny and co. handles all this .

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I guess now we know how the Broncos felt in the SB in '87

Watching the mismatch (I won't call it a game), I felt like it was the Raiders '83 Super Bowl all over again.

[BDBohnzie]

I thought about turning it off when it was 28-0. And again when it was 35-7, and again at half time when it was 45-14. But I didn't. I allowed myself to suffer through a humiliating defeat. And would do it again tomorrow, as I seem to have a sick sense of humor.

Here are my thoughts:

Kareem Moore is terrible. He was out of position on too many plays and takes the worst angles. The worst was Harrison's 50 yard TD run.

Haslett's secondary schemes need to be changed. By now, every team knows that the Skins play well off the ball, and will give up everything underneath. Even if underneath is stretched to 10, 12, 15 yards as it was last night. The Eagles were able to march down effectively by throwing underneath and did so on short fields and using extended chunks of yards on each completion.

The defense was completely exploited when Landry moved up to shadow Vick. Fletcher dropped back into a deep zone, leaving the middle of the field completely wide open, and Vick took complete advantage.

Keiland Williams filled in admirably for Torain last night. Almost 140 yards from scrimmage and 3 TDs. Running with a presence, hitting holes hard, and making things happen. However, he had no help as the Skins had to rely on Darrel Young (who by the way is shaping up to be a younger version of Mike Sellars, just hope he blocks better) to carry the ball in relief of Williams since Torain was hurt in warm ups, Portis is still recovering from his groin injury, Chad Simpson was inactive and James Davis sat on the Practice Squad.

It's time to cut Galloway loose and let Terrance Austin and Taurus Johnson show the Skins what they can do. While he was a good and serviceable WR in his time, Galloway is past his prime and should be sent to pasture. It didn't help that Moss had a mediocre game either.

We might have seen the best single game performance by a quarterback ever last night. Vick was a man possessed last night and his numbers more than tell the tale of a man who completely dominated the game from the word go. He made the entire Skins defense look horrible last night. I'm not sure any one team has the combination of tools to stop him, they'll only hope to contain him.

While AH laid on the turf during Avant's "touchdown" (thanks to Shanny's 2 questionable challenges, the Skins couldn't challenge this play), he pretty much single handedly showed the entire world what the rest of the team did tonight. They laid down while the Eagles drove a Mack Truck all over them. AH however was effective in bringing pressure and pushing back the double teams that the Eagles threw at him. That lead to the Skins' lone sack. But at other times, his effort was wasted when no one else could get more pressure, not Orakpo, not Carter, not Landry. Or when the refs left their yellow hankies in their pockets...

I noticed that on the Eagles big runs, there was a lack of instant replays on them. Almost like ESPN saw the amount of holding that the Eagles were doing and decided not to show the world. I'll leave that to the GTripp and the other tape watchers to evaluate, but I feel like the Eagles were doing a good amount of jersey-grabbing. While I'm not saying the Skins didn't do their fair share, the first holding call was on Casey Rabach with about 6 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. Looking over the play by play log on Yahoo! Sports, there is a stunning lack of 10 yard penalties, which tells me the Rabach hold is most likely the only holding call made last night that wasn't during a special teams play. I find it very hard to believe there wasn't more reasons to throw a flag...

A flat out dominating performance by the Eagles last night as they try to throw their claim in as best in the NFC, while a team coming off a bye and having signed their QB to what could be a huge extension, came out completely flat and was run over within the 1st 13 minutes of the game. Mike Shanahan has his work cut out for him, and while at 4-5, this team isn't out of it, you now have a situation where guys are playing for their jobs instead of the playoffs.

[JLee9718]

After watching last night’s game, guess what? The Redskins need a new defensive coordinator, too! Only Jim Haslet could take a top 10 defensive unit and make it the worst defense in the NFL! Back when Marty Schottenheimer (sp?) was hired as the Redskins coach I was ecstatic. Well, it took me three weeks and I was ready to toss him back to Cleveland, which also fired him (before KC also fired him!). He tried to tell Darrell Green how to play cornerback!!! He said he was a teacher of football, and Green had been playing his position wrong! Eventually Marty got fired after one year so the ‘Skins could bring in the inept Steve Spurrier and Green ended up in the Hall of Fame. So now we have Shanahan, who was fired by Denver, and then Mike hired his son as his offensive coordinator, and the playcalling looks kind of strange to me. Now Kyle is trying to teach McNabb how to play QB (he says his stance is wrong and he’s trying to get McNabb to change it!!!). McNabb will eventually end up in the Hall of Fame (presumably because of his “bad” stance when he throws!!!) Woe is me…Why do coaches go brain dead when they are hired by the Redskins? And why can their sons call good plays in Houston but suddenly are the height of ineptness when they reach the Redskins? The ‘Skins looked lost on defense against the Eagles, just as they looked lost against the Colts. Fire Haslet now!!! Next to go would be Kyle if the offense doesn’t improve!

[JWsleep]

I don't get the "fire _____" thing. What we saw last night was a team with lots of good young draft picks and a coaching staff that's been together for a very long time kicking the shit out of a team with very few good young draft picks and a staff that came in this year.

Continuity and slow build through the draft. It takes time. There's no quick fix. Stop dreaming--we've been down that road how many time in the last decade???

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Last time I checked it still only counts as 1 loss whether you lose by 1 or by 50 points. And i'm pretty sure the Eagles only get 1 win out of the deal as well.

In 99% of the cases you are correct. However, point differential is one of the deep tiebreakers in the NFL system so a loss by 50 could theoretically be worse than a loss by 1 point...

Carry on...

[over the mountain]

imo d jackson is a certified skin killer. every time he torches us i cant help but think of what vinny said a year after the draft when he took d thomas over d jack.

he said d jack was the most nfl ready receiver (after d jack put up great stats for a rookie) but thomas had too much upside to pass on.

sucks, dez looks good too. we load up on receiving talent 3 years ago with 3 2nd round picks, none of them panned out and the best of the trio (f davis) is invisible b/c we already had/have cooley who never comes out of the game if he is starting.