Rock out with your Lockout

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Halle-freaking-lujah

I tire of this argument too. The commerce of our country and (increasingly in the rest of the world) is governed by freedom. In a free market, products and services of value are paid at the level at which they are available (scarcity). Professional athletes are amongst the most scarce commodities anywhere. You don't have to like it but it is the system by which you yourself gain a great amount of benefit.

The common misconception is that people get paid to do their job based on how "important" society deems it. That couldn't really be any further from the truth. It's a function of value and scarcity. And where there is little scarcity (teachers) there is little pay no matter how much society values the work they do.

I appreciate what teachers do (as an example) and I have many friends/acquaintances who do it. A few complain about pay some. I always ask why so many people teach if the pay isn't good enough. They never have a real answer.

Interesting concept. I'm not sure I completely buy it though. I believe one reason cops and teachers are paid the way they are is because they are state employees. While state employees tend to have pretty good benefits, their salaries aren't always high, but I don't know if that is an argument of scarcity or just the fact that the government is only going to supply X amount of money to pay these state employees, since the government has X amount in their budget to pay for each and every program.

A truer comparison would be if all education and law enforcement was privately funded. Not saying cops and teachers would be making millions a year, but I could potentially see them making more.

[SirClintonPortis]

Teachers are paid less because their "firm", aka government, doesn't get as much money coming and/or has to spread out the money coming in to more recipients and expensive goods such as asphalt. The government can only get income from its tax base or loans from other governments. It's often not a very willing transfer of money to the government.

NFL has a ton of money distribute to its employees because people always spending a giant-ass amount money to satisfy their football fix, other companies want to put their advertising money into the NFL because they believe that they'll grab a ton of consumers, etc.

[NFLLockout]

I wanted to invite all of you to check out the NFLPA's Super Bowl ad. The players want only one thing, let us play!

Check it out on Youtube by pasting this link into your browser: youtube.com/watch?v=Jl9BpUgYljQ

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by NFLLockout

I wanted to invite all of you to check out the NFLPA's Super Bowl ad. The players want only one thing, let us play!

Check it out on Youtube by pasting this link into your browser: youtube.com/watch?v=Jl9BpUgYljQ

To be fair, the one thing the players want it to be allowed to play - - under terms that do not change from the present terms in any significant way. They have said from the beginning that they are happy with the current CBA and don't need to negotiate any changes to it at all.

So, "Let us play!" is a bit of an over-simplification of the confrontation here.

In addition, the idea that all they want is "Let us play" sort of conflicts with DeMaurice Smith's statement that the NFLPA and the NFL are "at war".

This is NFLPA "propaganda" just as the interviews with Roger Goodell on NFL Network (gee, who owns NFL Network?) is NFL "propaganda". When really serious negotiations start, NONE of that propagandizing will happen. Things have not yet gotten serious at the bargaining table...

[NFLLockout]

Hey guys, as many of you know, the NFL recently filed a claim with the National Labor Relations board against the NFLPA.

The NFLPA has responded to that claim:

The players didn’t walk out, and the players can’t lockout. Players want a fair, new and long-term deal. We have offered proposals and solutions on every issue the owners have raised. This claim has absolutely no merit.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this!

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

So, "Let us play!" is a bit of an over-simplification of the confrontation here.

I mean, what are you going to lay out the case by case logistics in a Superbowl commercial? Or are you going to just keep it simple.

It's a bit misleading, but they've got to communicate their grievances in a way that translates. The missing link in all of this is the fan, and the NFLPA wants to motivate them.