The after London semi-meltdown thread.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

First and foremost- this team has fight.



It wasn't too long ago, that we were finishing below .500 every year.



I know it sucks to lose tight games, but....at least we are IN these games to the end. It wasn't always like that.



So, that's step #1.



Step #2 is to learn to finish more of these games & bring home the win.



It won't take take much to get to step 2 consistently.

Josh Norman needs called out by his teammates to cut out the stupid penalties.

He knows better- he'll clean it up.



Hopkins- I am still behind this guy. Yeah, he had a bad game & missed a few make-able kicks. He is still light years ahead of the chumps we used to roll through here.

Anyone remember the (what was it?) 8-10 years of sub-par kickers?

He's still young & he'll reflect & learn from this.



So we get to the halfway point & now have a bye week.

Time to get healthy, look back on what could have been better & get a plan to fix it.



Things are not all bleak...there is a lot of positive to be taken from the crappy outcome today.



We're at the half way mark & we're 1.5 games over .500. We all know it could be more & so do the players & coaches. That should give everyone more confidence & resolve to get the rest of the little things ironed out & start rocking for the second half & the playoff run.



Hail!

Agree with everything. We are 110% in the mix not only for the division but for a wildcard midway through.
Fuck Hopkins though. He has a noodle leg, and he needs to go.
Norman got absolutely toasted yesterday. He is no Revis. Not even close. We need him but he is not worth his paycheck.

[Chico23231]

Is it okay to feel the need to physically beat the entire ref crew today? FFS, the game was over 4 hours long and about a third of the penalties were just bullshit. Isn't it clear the league ratings are way fucking down...clean this bulkshit up now goodell. It's unwatchable and all these commercial timeouts to go along with this crap makes watching an entire game tough.

[CRedskinsRule]

Yes. Just don't act on that feeling

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[Evilgrin]

They are still a few players away on defense, and they can play sloppy and make a ton of mistakes and still almost win against decent teams.

[SolidSnake84]

I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.

If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.



If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

Cutting Hopkins does nothing to solve the real problem... scoring in the redzone.

Hopkins has been a nice find, I wouldn't cut him off one miss and I think that sends the wrong message anyway.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by MTK

Cutting Hopkins does nothing to solve the real problem... scoring in the redzone.

Hopkins has been a nice find, I wouldn't cut him off one miss and I think that sends the wrong message anyway.

While I am mad at Hopkins we have seen this narrative before, we cut a kicker based off one miss and he becomes a pro bowl kicker for another team. The scoring in the red zone thing is worrying me more, we are top 5 in pass yards, yards per play, and top 7 in 3rd down conversions but 28th in red zone TD pct. that I don't get. That needs to sure up quickly.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I want to see accountability from the team, and so I feel, that a guy like Hopkins should be cut. Send the message that when you make mistakes that cost your team the game, it will not be tolerated. Kickers are a dime a dozen, not like we are asking to cut a QB or starting WR.

If he can't be trusted to kick what amounted to be an extra point, then he cannot be counted on period.

SMH... you can't just go around cutting guys when they have a bad game. When you have a shit day at work does your boss walk over to you and tell you to pack your bags? Hopkins has been more that solid for us.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

SMH... you can't just go around cutting guys when they have a bad game. When you have a shit day at work does your boss walk over to you and tell you to pack your bags? Hopkins has been more that solid for us.

It doesn't solve 100% of the problem, but i think it sends the message that "oh shit, i better perform because if I don't, i'm gone". Fire them up so to speak.

I was calling for Cousins head at the beginning of the year because he was playing like garbage and basically losing us games with his backbreaking interceptions. I think he knew that he was on a short leash if it didn't get better and he manned up and look at how good he is doing now.

If nothing else, bring in some FA kickers and work them out at Redskins Park, at least get in Hopkins head that they are looking at his position now and if he starts sucking, he's gone. Some players respond well from pressure like that and someone breathing on their neck, some don't. Not sure which kind hopkins is.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It doesn't solve 100% of the problem, but i think it sends the message that "oh shit, i better perform because if I don't, i'm gone". Fire them up so to speak.

I was calling for Cousins head at the beginning of the year because he was playing like garbage and basically losing us games with his backbreaking interceptions. I think he knew that he was on a short leash if it didn't get better and he manned up and look at how good he is doing now.

If nothing else, bring in some FA kickers and work them out at Redskins Park, at least get in Hopkins head that they are looking at his position now and if he starts sucking, he's gone. Some players respond well from pressure like that and someone breathing on their neck, some don't. Not sure which kind hopkins is.

Honestly, I think to get to this level, you pretty much have to dedicate your life to the game. So when you fail, this has to be terrible. Hopkins right now has to feel like sh*t. He knows he lost the game, failing to do the only thing he's being paid for.

I'm really not sure he needs added pressure.

I would agree that bringing the threat of losing your job could be a good tool with, for say, a lazy ass defense not tackling properly.

But right now I think the only pressure Hopkins needs is from himself, and his teammates, saying "Man, we know you're better than that, you lost us one, now win us some".

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

It doesn't solve 100% of the problem, but i think it sends the message that "oh shit, i better perform because if I don't, i'm gone". Fire them up so to speak.

I was calling for Cousins head at the beginning of the year because he was playing like garbage and basically losing us games with his backbreaking interceptions. I think he knew that he was on a short leash if it didn't get better and he manned up and look at how good he is doing now.

If nothing else, bring in some FA kickers and work them out at Redskins Park, at least get in Hopkins head that they are looking at his position now and if he starts sucking, he's gone. Some players respond well from pressure like that and someone breathing on their neck, some don't. Not sure which kind hopkins is.

I think Hopkins has certainly earned enough of leash that his job is safe. If he was brand new then maybe, but as I said, he's made plenty of big kicks around here. If you cut him then you're bringing back in guys like Forbath. No thanks.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think Hopkins has certainly earned enough of leash that his job is safe. If he was brand new then maybe, but as I said, he's made plenty of big kicks around here. If you cut him then you're bringing back in guys like Forbath. No thanks.

Seriously. Let's bring in more guys to get in his head, while the reason he's missing kicks isn't because he's not talented, it's because he's in a mental funk.

[skinsfaninok]

All of this is a wash if we come back strong and healthy and beat a one dimensionsal Vikings team in 2 weeks.

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[Ohioskins]

This team is so demoralizing to watch. Even when they are doing well, I feel like I am waiting for the other shoe to fall.

[skinsfan69]

Would anyone be complaining about coaching and so on if Hopkins makes that kick?