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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Waldorf, MD
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 58
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Re: Obama Care
As JoeRedskin said. This thing will best be judged 10 years from now. Imagine, we will have had 3+ more superbowl rings for the Skins by and the US will be fiscally sound by then. It's easy if you try.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Northern,Va.
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Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia our taxes as high as 92% , no 401k plans , 1,000 / yr IRA contributions , 12-14% inflation rates and 14-22 % interst rates were fine , and helped the middle class ? In our system < Capitolism > everyone has the opprotunity to achieve wealth / higher standard of living .... it takes some hard work , dedication . Its like education and health care , if J. Doe cuts class , fails to put the time in to study , graduates ; does not attemp to learn a skill that will pay him a fair wage ... that is his choice . If J. Doe decides to ... drink, smoke , never exercise and like most people who have insurance , not go to a doctor , then even the best Ed. & HC system will do J.Doe and people like him any good . It is what we do as individuals that will determine what we have . Maybe you can explain to me how Dems are helping the middle class by taxing us up to and over $ 550,000 on what we leave our kids What is the Future of the Estate Tax? ? |
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The Dems hadn't completed the Obaminationcare bill, they could've pulled back, made concessions, etc. I even did the math, in a post earlier in this thread I believe, just giving a tax credit or voucher for the uninusred would've been dramatically more cost effective and kept the fed control out of the system. But to your post below, and I agree 100% this isn't about health care, it's about the left in this country making a larger voting block more dependent on gov't and solidifying themselves as the Politboru Quote:
Bush should've made a top priority to rebuild the HUMINT component of our intel services in the Middle East and use covert ops to keep Saddam under wraps until hard evidence of WMDs or nukes was uncovered.
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Location: Virginia Beach
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Re: Obama Care
A Clinton hold-over provided the intel to Bush 2 for the Iraq War.
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 58
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Seeing how this thread now suffers the LastPageLink disease, maybe SmootSmack can look down upon us and open a new thread-maybe called:
ObamaCare: Episode 5-The Empire Strikes Back and in 10 years when we revisit this we will start with: ObamaCare - episode 1: the Phantom HC menace episode 2: Attack of the PC clone wars (pc=politically correct) episode 3: Revenge of the sick and obviously this threads title will have to be changed to - ObamaCare Episode 4- a New Hope |
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Couldn't agree more.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
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Take a look at this, and tell me that we're #1. We're lagging, severely in a lot of areas. The U.S. has the best health care system in the world Instead of blindly saying "The US is better than everyone" for every single category. Try to look and see that we're lagging behind a lot of countries in a lot of areas. That's not to say this isn't a great country, but we need to constantly improve to stay on top. I'm sick of seeing people bitch about making this country better. Is the system perfect, absolutely not. It has flaws. But it's interesting, we have no problem with tax hikes to pay for bombs that cost billions, yet taking care of our own people, people lose control. Holy crap, you might have to provide decent insurance for your employees?!?!?!?! If you can't afford it, shut your doors and go get a job for someone that can. This is ridiculous. People on this site are always talking about how the US needs to stop taking care of every other country and take care of ourselves. This is a step in the right direction. As matty said earlier, what's not fair is 60% of all bankruptcies come not from poor financial planning, but needing a medical procedure. That, in my eyes, is complete bullshit. We need much more reform than we have now. But I'll take this for a start.
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Also, the fact that people will now go in and get preventative care will drastically cut down on emergency bills, which are far more expensive. I bet we see some savings within the medical community based on that alone. I want a country where people don't have to avoid the Dr. because they can't afford it.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
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Yes Frances system is falling apart unless a women likes to have a baby in a fire truck; France Fights Universal Care's High Cost - WSJ.com A worker only pays about 50% of their pay check for health coverage and still it is in a financial crises. Maybe they need to pay 75% of their pay check to make it better. France Fights Universal Care's High Cost - WSJ.com |
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