What is wrong with Santana Moss? (merged)

skinsfan69 · 10-15-2007, 09:32 AM

I said this a while back and got ripped for saying it. Moss is not a number one wr IMO. He's a nice #2 and that's it. We are not getting the production out of the WR's that we should be getting. I would be careful of going out and paying big money to another FA WR. But Bryan Johnson would be interresting for the right price.

A while back someone started a thread about Santan Moss and Randy Moss. People were actually saying they would actually rather have Santana than Randy.

MTK · 10-15-2007, 10:19 AM

I thought Lloyd should have made that catch. He's known for making difficult grabs look easy and we definitely needed him to do that in that spot yesterday.

The one to Cooley was also just off his fingertips, with Cooley I thought he misjudged that ball a bit and it appeared that he slowed up a bit initially when he was going after it.

Campbell's touch still needs fine tuning but I've always thought if a receiver gets his hands on it then he should make the catch most of the time. Santana letting that one off his hands go for an INT and then letting the other one get too close to him and bouncing off his grill were just pathetic.

dgack · 10-15-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I thought Lloyd should have made that catch. He's known for making difficult grabs look easy and we definitely needed him to do that in that spot yesterday.

The one to Cooley was also just off his fingertips, with Cooley I thought he misjudged that ball a bit and it appeared that he slowed up a bit initially when he was going after it.

Campbell's touch still needs fine tuning but I've always thought if a receiver gets his hands on it then he should make the catch most of the time. Santana letting that one off his hands go for an INT and then letting the other one get too close to him and bouncing off his grill were just pathetic.

Thank you. I think some of you Skins fans here are so jaded by years of terrible QB's and receivers that you forget that jumping/diving catches are pretty commonplace on teams that actually have decent personnel.

I'm definitely tired of people letting Brandon off the hook for dropping that pass. He could have caught that and done nothing else this year and I think most of us would go "you know, I forgive you for sucking so bad, Brandon"...

MTK · 10-15-2007, 10:26 AM

I thought the refs were bad on both sides yesterday. Some really ticky tacky calls.

The Zimmermans · 10-15-2007, 10:35 AM

yeah, last thing we needed to add to the sloppy play was a whole bunch of BS from the Green Bay Packer refs

The Zimmermans · 10-15-2007, 10:51 AM

cooley catches the ball because he knows he needs to in order to make a big play....the rest of the guys yesterday seemed to just be worried about dropping the ball.....if they were 100% with the success of the team...and not worrying bad about looking bad they would have made those catches without an extra thought....gotta wonder about santana TAKING HIMSELF OUT instead of coming back in and WINNING THE GAME THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY COST US

The Zimmermans · 10-15-2007, 10:52 AM

TO is a clown...and he drops a million passes, but he always comes back and makes up for it later in the game regardless of how many people are booing him and how many people hate him

MTK · 10-15-2007, 10:52 AM

I don't have a problem with Moss not being in the game at the end. He didn't deserve to be in there, I was actually hoping it was the coaches that sat him down. His F ups cost us the game.

The Zimmermans · 10-15-2007, 10:54 AM

yeah i wish that tooo.....i was very dissapointed when i heard he took himself out

Campbell17 · 11-03-2007, 11:00 PM

In his first year as a Skin, Moss had 9 touchdowns, and went to the probowl, he hasnt put upthose numbers in the last 2.5 seasons. I know injury is slowing him down, but he has 0 td's this year. We cant go far if we have no desegnated #1 reciever. I think Cooley is great, but a TE can't do the work all alone.

SFREDSKIN · 11-03-2007, 11:43 PM

Must be a bad groin pull to the point were it slows him down and makes him an average receiver. I think that he's toughing it out instead of resting, I'm sure if he was fully healthy that he would be like his old self.

GridIron26 · 11-04-2007, 12:17 AM

It is something that I have always wonder about.. Was it just a fluke or not? I mean, he shows lot of stuff and yet for some reason, he doesn't do it another half of times..

Green1 · 11-04-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Must be a bad groin pull to the point were it slows him down and makes him an average receiver. I think that he's toughing it out instead of resting, I'm sure if he was fully healthy that he would be like his old self.

His hamstring has nothing to do with his hands.

skinsfan_nn · 11-04-2007, 12:26 AM

Repeat Thread. This thread already exists.

Smooter · 11-04-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Repeat Thread. This thread already exists.

Yeah, this was talked about weeks ago.

10-15-2007, 10:26 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,835	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I thought the refs were bad on both sides yesterday. Some really ticky tacky calls. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-15-2007, 10:35 AM	#5
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? yeah, last thing we needed to add to the sloppy play was a whole bunch of BS from the Green Bay Packer refs __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-15-2007, 10:51 AM	#6
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? cooley catches the ball because he knows he needs to in order to make a big play....the rest of the guys yesterday seemed to just be worried about dropping the ball.....if they were 100% with the success of the team...and not worrying bad about looking bad they would have made those catches without an extra thought....gotta wonder about santana TAKING HIMSELF OUT instead of coming back in and WINNING THE GAME THAT HE HAD PREVIOUSLY COST US __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-15-2007, 10:52 AM	#7
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? TO is a clown...and he drops a million passes, but he always comes back and makes up for it later in the game regardless of how many people are booing him and how many people hate him __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-15-2007, 10:52 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,835	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I don't have a problem with Moss not being in the game at the end. He didn't deserve to be in there, I was actually hoping it was the coaches that sat him down. His F ups cost us the game. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-15-2007, 09:32 AM	#1
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,445	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I said this a while back and got ripped for saying it. Moss is not a number one wr IMO. He's a nice #2 and that's it. We are not getting the production out of the WR's that we should be getting. I would be careful of going out and paying big money to another FA WR. But Bryan Johnson would be interresting for the right price. A while back someone started a thread about Santan Moss and Randy Moss. People were actually saying they would actually rather have Santana than Randy.

10-15-2007, 10:19 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,835	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? I thought Lloyd should have made that catch. He's known for making difficult grabs look easy and we definitely needed him to do that in that spot yesterday. The one to Cooley was also just off his fingertips, with Cooley I thought he misjudged that ball a bit and it appeared that he slowed up a bit initially when he was going after it. Campbell's touch still needs fine tuning but I've always thought if a receiver gets his hands on it then he should make the catch most of the time. Santana letting that one off his hands go for an INT and then letting the other one get too close to him and bouncing off his grill were just pathetic. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-15-2007, 10:54 AM	#9
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 41 Posts: 937	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? yeah i wish that tooo.....i was very dissapointed when i heard he took himself out __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

11-03-2007, 11:00 PM	#10
Campbell17 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Haddonfield, NJ Age: 31 Posts: 642	What is wrong with Santana Moss? In his first year as a Skin, Moss had 9 touchdowns, and went to the probowl, he hasnt put upthose numbers in the last 2.5 seasons. I know injury is slowing him down, but he has 0 td's this year. We cant go far if we have no desegnated #1 reciever. I think Cooley is great, but a TE can't do the work all alone. __________________ This time instead of some lousy joke, humerous comment, racial slur, or a famous quote, I will write small, and be the bigger person.

11-03-2007, 11:43 PM	#11
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? Must be a bad groin pull to the point were it slows him down and makes him an average receiver. I think that he's toughing it out instead of resting, I'm sure if he was fully healthy that he would be like his old self.

11-04-2007, 12:17 AM	#12
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,593	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? It is something that I have always wonder about.. Was it just a fluke or not? I mean, he shows lot of stuff and yet for some reason, he doesn't do it another half of times..

11-04-2007, 12:26 AM	#14
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: What is wrong with Santana Moss? Repeat Thread. This thread already exists. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

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