Classless Coach Belichick

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I just cant see how NE could have done it any differently. They went for it on 4th instead of kicking a FG. The FG would have been rubbing the Skins noses in it. At least the Skins had a chance to stop them on 4th and they couldnt.

I have no problem with any team scoring as much as they can. The only way to disrespect the game is to stop playing hard. You cant tell guys that want to get noticed or keep their jobs to stop playing.

A FG would have been worse than trying to score a TD??

Wow, what sort of insane, reverse logic is that?

The majority of the time in the NFL any team in that situation would kick the FG vs. going for it. It's 38-0, the game is comfortably in hand, you kick the FG.

The Patriots are on a mission to embarrass everyone they play, I guess because Belichick is himself embarrassed over the whole cheating scandal so this is his way of sticking it to the rest of the league. Hey, more power to them, but to me and many others it's a pretty shitty way to go about things. If the Redskins were doing that, I wouldn't be pleased at all.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A FG would have been worse than trying to score a TD??

Wow, what sort of insane, reverse logic is that?

The majority of the time in the NFL any team in that situation would kick the FG vs. going for it. It's 38-0, the game is comfortably in hand, you kick the FG.

The Patriots are on a mission to embarrass everyone they play, I guess because Belichick is himself embarrassed over the whole cheating scandal so this is his way of sticking it to the rest of the league. Hey, more power to them, but to me and many others it's a pretty shitty way to go about things. If the Redskins were doing that, I wouldn't be pleased at all.

I think the Pats gave the Skins a chance to keep points off the board and the Skins couldnt do it.

I am 100% certain that if the Skins were 8-0 and crushing opponents like NE is, nobody would have a problem with how they were winning. I know I wouldnt.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I think the Pats gave the Skins a chance to keep points off the board and the Skins couldnt do it.

I am 100% certain that if the Skins were 8-0 and crushing opponents like NE is, nobody would have a problem with how they were winning. I know I wouldnt.

LOL interesting way to look at it.

They were running it up, plain and simple. Same way they brought Brady back in to throw a late TD against the Dolphins.

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by irish

I just cant see how NE could have done it any differently. They went for it on 4th instead of kicking a FG. The FG would have been rubbing the Skins noses in it. At least the Skins had a chance to stop them on 4th and they couldnt.

I have no problem with any team scoring as much as they can. The only way to disrespect the game is to stop playing hard. You cant tell guys that want to get noticed or keep their jobs to stop playing.

And thats why no one likes you or your garbage mentality

[irish]

Originally Posted by Redskin

And thats why no one likes you or your garbage mentality

Thanks for clueing me in kid.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Redskin

And thats why no one likes you or your garbage mentality

Wow, I guess Irish has his nerve for actually having his own opinion, a little out of line with that don't you think?

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by offiss

Wow, I guess Irish has his nerve for actually having his own opinion, a little out of line with that don't you think?

Did Redskins say Irish couldn't have his own opinion? He just expressed his opinion about Irish's opinion, didn't say he couldn't have one.

For crying out loud, let's leave the straw man arguments in the barn where they belong.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I would love to see Brady get his knee blown out while he's tossing his 5th TD during meaningless garbage time in a game.

As much as I hate to admit it, so do I. Actually I know what would be even better: If brady were to get shoved out of bounds and he blows out his knee after running full speed into the goblin known as belichick and splitting his head open.

Okay, so maybe that's pretty classless of me, but I don't think it's really that much different than going for it on 4th and 2 with a 40+ point lead and passing it off by saying "well, they still could come back."

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

I know, I should wait until 24-hrs. before I post. But, my emotions have the best of me at this moment. What a classless act Bill Belichick is. O.k., we're down 38 to zip late in the 2nd half and this fuck is throwing deep routes and anything else that may put more points on the board! What did we do to piss him off already?? Granted, the Pats out played us, out coached us, out scored us. Give them credit for that. They are an awesome force. But, when they had us beat, and beat bad, what did they do? They kept pouring it on. Enough! We're done. We're toast. Raise the freakin' white flag! I have never been a proponent of dirty play, but after it became apparent that Belichick was going to run up the score on the 'Skins, I would have sent the house on Brady on every single play. Yep, damn the torpedos. Even if it had caused a personal foul each and every blitz, if I were Gibbs and/or Greg Williams, I'd have pummeled Brady for Belichick's transgression. Buried his ass in the turf. Brady seemed so smug on the sidelines anyway. I only watched the end of the game to see what Gibbs' reaction would be when he met Belichick to shake hands. I was hoping for something similar to a Chuck Noll / Jerry Glanville interaction. Back in the day, Noll at least had the balls to get in Glanville's grille and let him know how he didn't appreciate how "Glandville" ran up the score on the Steelers that day. I have yet to see, or hear, any response from Gibbs after this embarrassing loss, but after the clock ran out, the camera was following Gibbs and it appeared that he simply avoided Belichick and ran off the field. Someone please tell me that I missed something and that Gibbs addressed this issue and stepped up for the team. Because if he didn't, I've lost a great amount of respect for him, and I love the guy. I had great respect for the Pats, and even Belichick, until today. I now hope they go down in a very very painful way.

Coach Gibbs publically announced in the week leading up to the game that the Redskins had virtually no hope of winning this game, and stated that they were the "biggest underdogs in history". He literally displayed a large dose of "no faith in his team", and you are worried whether or not he shook Belicheats hand and got in his face for running up the score?

I am more concerned that Gibbs had written this game off as a loss, several days before the coin toss. What kind of message does he send the team with that attitude?

But you are right, Belichick has to be careful, as long as he appears to keep embarrasing teams and purposely running up the score, he might place his stars in harms way. Someday someone is going to take that late hit on Brady around the knees. Someone is going to lead a helment into Moss's head, someone is going to purposely crack-block Vrabel. Again, they need to be careful, they have already been labeled "cheaters" and now "class-less", I know NFL players are professionals, but sooner or later a player is going to take offense to the way Belichick is doing business and come to the conclusion that the penalty and subsequent fine will be worth the late hit.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Coach Gibbs publically announced in the week leading up to the game that the Redskins had virtually no hope of winning this game, and stated that they were the "biggest underdogs in history". He literally displayed a large dose of "no faith in his team", and you are worried whether or not he shook Belicheats hand and got in his face for running up the score?

I am more concerned that Gibbs had written this game off as a loss, several days before the coin toss. What kind of message does he send the team with that attitude?

It was a classic coaching cliche, talk up the other team, say it's going to be a tough game. What do you want him to say? We're going to kick their asses all over the field? Come on. Why are so many people acting so freaking clueless? It's driving me insane.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

It was a classic coaching cliche, talk up the other team, say it's going to be a tough game. What do you want him to say? We're going to kick their asses all over the field? Come on. Why are so many people acting so freaking clueless? It's driving me insane.

It is not what I want him to say, it is what he should say. Or, not say for that matter.

The coach said "I don't know how we can match up to them, do you, because if you so tell me and we will both know." Or workds to that effect.

There is a difference between "talking up the other team" and surrendering the outcome. When is the last time you ever heard ANY head coach in the NFL "talk up a team" like that?

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Coach Gibbs publically announced in the week leading up to the game that the Redskins had virtually no hope of winning this game, and stated that they were the "biggest underdogs in history". He literally displayed a large dose of "no faith in his team", and you are worried whether or not he shook Belicheats hand and got in his face for running up the score...?

It didn't "worry" me. I was simply expressing my personal frustration over the fact that Gibbs had not shown more emotion over Belichick's classless display. I understand, and appreciate, Gibbs typical reaction to "rise above" someone like Belichick. But, I truly think the team would have found a new spark if Gibbs had reacted at least a little more aggresively.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

It didn't "worry" me. I was simply expressing my personal frustration over the fact that Gibbs had not shown more emotion over Belichick's classless display. I understand, and appreciate, Gibbs typical reaction to "rise above" someone like Belichick. But, I truly think the team would have found a new spark if Gibbs had reacted at least a little more aggresively.

Please tell what is so classless about Belichick's team kicking our ass yesterday?

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Please tell what is so classless about Belichick's team kicking our ass yesterday?

Jeeze. I'm not going to repeat the multitude of reasons again. Just read all of the posts and maybe you'll get it...maybe.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

Jeeze. I'm not going to repeat the multitude of reasons again. Just read all of the posts and maybe you'll get it...maybe.

I've read the posts, and yes, I get where people are coming from on this issue. I really do. However, to me, a classless act would be if the Pats somehow had an "unfair" advantage over the Skins and then decided to run up the score. To me, running up the score implies that you are somehow incapable of preventing me from advancing the ball. If I'm still into the game, then I expect the same from your team. Which brings me to another question, did the Skins give up is what we really should be asking. Somehow, displacing our blame and disgust on Belichick has become all too convenient around the NFL these days.