Classless Coach Belichick

[12thMan]

This thread really has me fuming because this is part of the damn problem at Redskins Park and to a large degree, our fan base. Everyone wants to win a certain way or look a certain way while doing it. Give me break, will ya? When that helmet cracks into someone's chest on the other side of the ball, no one's going, "oh don't hit him so hard." I can barely articulate my frustration with this mindset. I guess I really don't see the classless nature in what went down yesterday.

[irish]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I can't believe there are (currently) 16 people who think the Patriots did not run up the score? What game were you clowns watching? And don't give me that whole "if you don't want us to score, then stop us" bullshit, either. There's class and then there's classless, this is most definitely the latter. I wore my Landry jersey to work today, just because I think true fans show their colors after a loss, especially a big loss like that. I have never gotten more support from fans of other teams who said things such as the Patriots were lucky we didn't go after Brady's legs. Obviously, that would be the antithesis of everything JG stands for, but there are teams that would have. 6 years ago, I felt bad for Boston and was happy when their teams started winning. Now, I'm getting the same feeling for them that I've had for Philadelphia and NY.

The Skins would have actually had to get close to Brady to get his legs.

[Giantone]

I picked the Skins and never imagine this would have happen .With that said These guys are all professionals and the fact is the back ups took advantage of their oppertunities,the back up QB scored ,there Defensive players were playing on O and they were scoring.How do you tell a back up not to play hard when he's playing for his job in the future,hell some of these guys might never see a pro game ever again..................you can't get mad at the other team just becuase your team let you down.Lets not forget that last time Bellicheck put in the back up QB and he threw a INT he was benched.......................so what would you have done?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Alright, here's how I see it:

Late in the game brady dropped back to pass into the endzone with Daniels running towards him very fast. Brady was throwing again even though they had a really comfortable lead (around 40 points), but what if Daniels had been able to make the hit and he blew out brady's knee?
What would belichick's excuse have been if he lost his golden boy because he had him passing late in a blow out?
Would he have been able to justify it by saying that he needed to secure a win even though they were already ahead by something like 7 TDs and our offense was constantly moving backwards?
So, isn't it pretty classless to put your team in that sort of situation? Like others have said, NE is lucky our team isn't really dirty because if we were I'm sure we could have made them regret that brady was still in late in the game.

I remember last year or the year before I was watching a U of Alabama game (for some reason) on TV and even though they were ahead by a lot late in the game they were still throwing deep and their best WR ended up suffering a broken leg. I understand that in college you need the whole margin of victory thing, but still a kid broke his leg when he should have been on the bench. In the NFL you don't even have to worry about margin of victory so there is no excuse for having your star player in late in a blow out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I just cant see how NE could have done it any differently. They went for it on 4th instead of kicking a FG. The FG would have been rubbing the Skins noses in it. At least the Skins had a chance to stop them on 4th and they couldnt.

I have no problem with any team scoring as much as they can. The only way to disrespect the game is to stop playing hard. You cant tell guys that want to get noticed or keep their jobs to stop playing.

A FG would have been worse than trying to score a TD??

Wow, what sort of insane, reverse logic is that?

The majority of the time in the NFL any team in that situation would kick the FG vs. going for it. It's 38-0, the game is comfortably in hand, you kick the FG.

The Patriots are on a mission to embarrass everyone they play, I guess because Belichick is himself embarrassed over the whole cheating scandal so this is his way of sticking it to the rest of the league. Hey, more power to them, but to me and many others it's a pretty shitty way to go about things. If the Redskins were doing that, I wouldn't be pleased at all.

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Belichick did exactly what he should have done. When a team self-destucts on the field of battle the opposition has absolutely no obligation to slow down. If the Skins had an opportunity to do this it would have been the right thing to do as well, but I think we all know that's not how it would play out. Hence the difference between teams with a killer instinct and teams without one. Belichick is a guy I respected but never liked. After today I respect him a little more.

I agree with what you say about having a killer instinct' but this one was over at halftime... why throw deep in the 4th.quarter and go for it on 4th.down...that I would call a "bitch slap" and way out of line.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I picked the Skins and never imagine this would have happen .With that said These guys are all professionals and the fact is the back ups took advantage of their oppertunities,the back up QB scored ,there Defensive players were playing on O and they were scoring.How do you tell a back up not to play hard when he's playing for his job in the future,hell some of these guys might never see a pro game ever again..................you can't get mad at the other team just becuase your team let you down.Lets not forget that last time Bellicheck put in the back up QB and he threw a INT he was benched.......................so what would you have done?

It's a ridiculous argument, dude. The damn back up QB runs for a 15 yard touchdown and we call Belichick classless. And Randall Godfrey, of all people, had the audacity to say something in the locker room of all places. Don't we get it? The Pats are saying we're not going to talk trash, but we'll give you every opportunity to kick our ass fair and square? And if you for some reason decide to run up the score in the process, we have no problem with it all.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Now that I think about it I bet that belichick only kept his starters in late in the game was because all week he heard that the Skins had the best defense that we was going to face so far this season. Once again, this was his attempt to prove his manhood and his superiority to the entire NFL.
I really think he's a pathetic, sad little man who has some real self esteem issues. (geez, I sound like hessel)

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

I know, I should wait until 24-hrs. before I post. But, my emotions have the best of me at this moment. What a classless act Bill Belichick is. O.k., we're down 38 to zip late in the 2nd half and this fuck is throwing deep routes and anything else that may put more points on the board! What did we do to piss him off already?? Granted, the Pats out played us, out coached us, out scored us. Give them credit for that. They are an awesome force. But, when they had us beat, and beat bad, what did they do? They kept pouring it on. Enough! We're done. We're toast. Raise the freakin' white flag! I have never been a proponent of dirty play, but after it became apparent that Belichick was going to run up the score on the 'Skins, I would have sent the house on Brady on every single play. Yep, damn the torpedos. Even if it had caused a personal foul each and every blitz, if I were Gibbs and/or Greg Williams, I'd have pummeled Brady for Belichick's transgression. Buried his ass in the turf. Brady seemed so smug on the sidelines anyway. I only watched the end of the game to see what Gibbs' reaction would be when he met Belichick to shake hands. I was hoping for something similar to a Chuck Noll / Jerry Glanville interaction. Back in the day, Noll at least had the balls to get in Glanville's grille and let him know how he didn't appreciate how "Glandville" ran up the score on the Steelers that day. I have yet to see, or hear, any response from Gibbs after this embarrassing loss, but after the clock ran out, the camera was following Gibbs and it appeared that he simply avoided Belichick and ran off the field. Someone please tell me that I missed something and that Gibbs addressed this issue and stepped up for the team. Because if he didn't, I've lost a great amount of respect for him, and I love the guy. I had great respect for the Pats, and even Belichick, until today. I now hope they go down in a very very painful way.

I have been saying the exact same thing. Once they kept Brady in throwing the ball all over the field in the 4th up 40 points, then going for it on 4th down twice or three times, I would have told #21 (the reaper!) to go after him. Hit him hard, hit him often. I dont care about the 15 yarders, I dont care if he has thrown the ball, just break is freaking neck. If they wanted to be classless and do that crap, then we are going to make you wish you had pulled him. But, I guess what we did was show some class by not acting like idiots.

[Dlyne8r]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Coach Gibbs publically announced in the week leading up to the game that the Redskins had virtually no hope of winning this game, and stated that they were the "biggest underdogs in history". He literally displayed a large dose of "no faith in his team", and you are worried whether or not he shook Belicheats hand and got in his face for running up the score...?

It didn't "worry" me. I was simply expressing my personal frustration over the fact that Gibbs had not shown more emotion over Belichick's classless display. I understand, and appreciate, Gibbs typical reaction to "rise above" someone like Belichick. But, I truly think the team would have found a new spark if Gibbs had reacted at least a little more aggresively.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I have been saying the exact same thing. Once they kept Brady in throwing the ball all over the field in the 4th up 40 points, then going for it on 4th down twice or three times, I would have told #21 (the reaper!) to go after him. Hit him hard, hit him often. I dont care about the 15 yarders, I dont care if he has thrown the ball, just break is freaking neck. If they wanted to be classless and do that crap, then we are going to make you wish you had pulled him. But, I guess what we did was show some class by not acting like idiots.

Why do we have to wait when were 40 points down to get Sean Taylor after Brady in the first place?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

It didn't "worry" me. I was simply expressing my personal frustration over the fact that Gibbs had not shown more emotion over Belichick's classless display. I understand, and appreciate, Gibbs typical reaction to "rise above" someone like Belichick. But, I truly think the team would have found a new spark if Gibbs had reacted at least a little more aggresively.

Please tell what is so classless about Belichick's team kicking our ass yesterday?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I can't believe there are (currently) 16 people who think the Patriots did not run up the score? What game were you clowns watching? And don't give me that whole "if you don't want us to score, then stop us" bullshit, either. There's class and then there's classless, this is most definitely the latter. I wore my Landry jersey to work today, just because I think true fans show their colors after a loss, especially a big loss like that. I have never gotten more support from fans of other teams who said things such as the Patriots were lucky we didn't go after Brady's legs. Obviously, that would be the antithesis of everything JG stands for, but there are teams that would have. 6 years ago, I felt bad for Boston and was happy when their teams started winning. Now, I'm getting the same feeling for them that I've had for Philadelphia and NY.

In case you haven't noticed there are a handful of people that take some sort of twisted joy in shitting on their own team. Just ignore them, otherwise you'll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why they call themselves fans of the team. I've always related it to someone who says they like a certain band, but then complain about every song and every album.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Now that I think about it I bet that belichick only kept his starters in late in the game was because all week he heard that the Skins had the best defense that we was going to face so far this season. Once again, this was his attempt to prove his manhood and his superiority to the entire NFL.
I really think he's a pathetic, sad little man who has some real self esteem issues. (geez, I sound like hessel)

The guy is an asswipe on and off the field. Cheats on his wife with a secretary, cheats in football by sending his minions to videotape defensive signals, shoves reporters and cameramen and treats anyone who asks him a question like a second class citizen who doesn't deserve his time , and when he's finally caught cheating by the NFL his response is to basically lash out at everyone else like it's THEIR fault he got caught. What a dick.

In my opinion, anyone defending this guy is just demonstrating their own lack of character.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A FG would have been worse than trying to score a TD??

Wow, what sort of insane, reverse logic is that?

The majority of the time in the NFL any team in that situation would kick the FG vs. going for it. It's 38-0, the game is comfortably in hand, you kick the FG.

The Patriots are on a mission to embarrass everyone they play, I guess because Belichick is himself embarrassed over the whole cheating scandal so this is his way of sticking it to the rest of the league. Hey, more power to them, but to me and many others it's a pretty shitty way to go about things. If the Redskins were doing that, I wouldn't be pleased at all.

I think the Pats gave the Skins a chance to keep points off the board and the Skins couldnt do it.

I am 100% certain that if the Skins were 8-0 and crushing opponents like NE is, nobody would have a problem with how they were winning. I know I wouldnt.