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Old 09-25-2015, 12:23 PM   #91
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:00 PM   #92
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Re Cousins 2 interceptions. I think the second is much worse than the first.

1st int - the giants were game planning to only have to defend the short or mid range routes. prince is able to let the play develop in front of him, predict the route and jump it. garcon did a poor job of running a wide sloppy angle instead of cutting in front of prince to make sue he had inside leverage on the ball.

if we dont stretch the field in the passing game, every D Coord will have their guys playing the short to mid stuff, keep the play in front of them, and allow them to jump routes. corners and safeties do not have to worry about contain or a guy getting behind them.

the pass plays are becoming very predictable w Desean out.

making it way to easy to gear up on the run and keep pass plays in front of defenders.

i want cousins to make that same throw, i want garcon to run a sharp route and i want us to dial up some long balls so defenders cant assume our receivers will be breaking no farther than 12-15 yards down the field.

2nd int - cousins has to know down, distance and when to press and when to not press. he said in an interview this preseason that he has to learn to not force a throw in every situation, particularly when the risk is high (squeezing/forcing it in), but the reward is small (4-8 yd gain at best).

1st and 10 on the giants 34. cousins CANNOT force that ball to carrier. its first down, the play broke down, you have already scrambled outside the tackles .. just throw it away.
This is exactly how I feel. The first one Prince A jumped the route cause he knew Garcon was running the dig. I think KC needed to pick the defender up quicker, rather than already had his mind up as to where he was throwing it.

The second one was just terrible. No reason to throw that ball at all. Just terrible.

We all knew there would be days like this from KC. Up and down. But to me I'm not going to jump off a cliff and judge him after 3 starts. I want to judge him after the season.

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Old 09-25-2015, 01:03 PM   #93
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This is exactly how I feel. The first one Prince A jumped the route cause he knew Garcon was running the dig. I think KC needed to pick the defender up quicker, rather than already had his mind up as to where he was throwing it.

The second one was just terrible. No reason to that ball at all. Just terrible.

We all knew there would be days like this from KC. Up and down. But to me I'm not going to jump off a cliff and judge him after 3 starts. I want to judge him after the season.


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Old 09-25-2015, 01:11 PM   #94
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It's only a matter of time folks. Washington warriors
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:13 PM   #95
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I hope Cousins is the answer, the QB class this year is terrible. Goff is the best QB, but he is so small, he will get blasted, and have a hard time holding up.

Jones - looking like a 1 hit wonder
Hackenburg - completely overrated
Cook - everything I read about him says he is similar to Cousins, even same school, inaccurate and turnover prone

Ehhhhhh? Do we want any of those guys?
If u build the right team u don't always need a franchise QB to win games. Kirk is a to machine so he's not the answer but maybe they can find a guy that protects the ball and is accurate enough to make some plays
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:19 PM   #96
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i agree with the bolded part from Skinsfan69 as well. im not jumping off a cliff. i look forward to cousins weekly radio interview to hear his comments.

what he knew he had to work on preseason (not forcing throws when he didnt have to and when the reward was low) .. he reverted back to. once.

someone sd it earlier in this thread. while he did throw the ball away sometimes, you could see he was doing it very reluctantly. like it caused him actually physical pain.
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If u build the right team u don't always need a franchise QB to win games. Kirk is a to machine so he's not the answer but maybe they can find a guy that protects the ball and is accurate enough to make some plays
Might not be needed, but unless you have the old Ravens defense it sure doesn't hurt. Redskins are due for a QB that starts for like 10 years. It would sure be nice.
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Old 09-25-2015, 01:28 PM   #98
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i agree with the bolded part from Skinsfan69 as well. im not jumping off a cliff. i look forward to cousins weekly radio interview to hear his comments.

what he knew he had to work on preseason (not forcing throws when he didnt have to and when the reward was low) .. he reverted back to. once.

someone sd it earlier in this thread. while he did throw the ball away sometimes, you could see he was doing it very reluctantly. like it caused him actually physical pain.


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Old 09-25-2015, 01:46 PM   #100
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lol it was the strangest most awkward thing. like RG3 trying to slide.

large men are chasing you to the sideline, coaches have hounded you for months to just throw the ball away .... and he just cant bring himself to do it.

kirk - you dont have the arm strength to throw a good ball on the run anyway. kirk throwing on the run = inaccurate ball.

30 - yes i agree. i think a lot of people agree with that. just wasnt ready to make an adjustment when D coord zeroed in on the run and short to intermediate passes.
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Might not be needed, but unless you have the old Ravens defense it sure doesn't hurt. Redskins are due for a QB that starts for like 10 years. It would sure be nice.
Yeah we have been saying this for yrs now. Idk if it's going to happen anytime soon with our recent history.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:23 PM   #102
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The giants really just own us. I was praying for a miracle win last night and nothing. It hurt I actually couldn't even sleep I was so mad. It wasn't that I thought we would win the east all of the sudden but man to get rolled once again on live TV u can't help but to get pissed.
This was me last night as well, mad during the whole stinking game. Sitting in my chair sweating because I was so hot about what I was seeing.

Hoping for a miracle and/or some sign of life.

I hate the Giants but even more than that I really hate being owned by the Giants.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:30 PM   #103
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That was painful to watch. I was expecting further progress. It didn't take long
to see two steps backward. Just a couple minutes in a special teams blunder and a pick. Nothing seemed to go right, pretty depressing.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:32 PM   #104
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Last night's game was a waste of a hangover. I am hanging in though. On to the next one.
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Old 09-25-2015, 02:59 PM   #105
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1st INT in my opinion was on Kirk throwing a slow ball as well. I am not going to blame Garcon. That was all Kirk from velocity to throwing to a bad place.

One thing I noticed more last night than any other game KIRK STARED DOWN HIS READ. He went through his progressions a couple of times but for the most part he was one his first read only.
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