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[That Guy]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That said, I'm not one of these people that believe the horse manure he's trying to shovel. It's just as bad and as insulting as some of the excuses from guys who get caught using PEDs/drugs.

but these steroids, they are for my horse.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by That Guy

but these steroids, they are for my horse.

i never inhaled

[DYoungJelly]

Maybe league executives were on the Cowboys party bus too.

Tom Brady's impact on NFC East race - NFC East - ESPN

Honestly, who is pulling for the league to reduce his suspension at least 1 game? I am.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Maybe league executives were on the Cowboys party bus too.

Tom Brady's impact on NFC East race - NFC East - ESPN

Honestly, who is pulling for the league to reduce his suspension at least 1 game? I am.

Some pundits were saying that they think the NFL is not going to want to have a Brady-less game against the Cowpukes because of ratings. Also, I feel that Goodell's plan was to have Brady be suspended two games, but because of the appeals he probably upped it to four.

Honestly, to me even an upheld one-game suspension is enough to tarnish Brady's legacy. And I'm not calling him a cheater, he's just a smug idiot who thought he was above the rules (like his coach).

[NC_Skins]

Interesting article from ESPN's legal guru on this.

Lester Munson: Tom Brady, NFLPA cannot win appeal filed in Deflategate


Doesn't seem to think Brady or the NFLPA have a shot in hell at overturning this.

[Hog1]

Interesting.........

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Interesting article from ESPN's legal guru on this.

Lester Munson: Tom Brady, NFLPA cannot win appeal filed in Deflategate


Doesn't seem to think Brady or the NFLPA have a shot in hell at overturning this.

Not as long as Goodell is the judge but also representing the NFL on this. Talk about a conflict of interest.

Judge Goodell: Commisioner Goodell, why should I keep the original punishment?
Commisioner Goodell: Because we're the same person who handed the punishment down in the first case?
Judge Goodell: Ah, great point. Punishment upheld.

(He might even throw in a little touch of Mara)
Later he whispers to Brady: You're lucky we didn't suspend you for an entire season...bitch

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Interesting.........

Your Team Cheats - The Definitive Guide to NFL Cheating

Every team has players caught for PEDs so that just kind of washes itself out.

Still, nothing has remotely close to the impact deflating the balls may be having (see graphs on the drastic improvement in fumble rate).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

SkinsFan69, what say you to this?

Doesn't impact anything my ass.

This proves nothing, other than NE doesn't fumble the ball. Again, why didn't it help Ridley? Where is your proof that every ball they played with was deflated?

I guess that normal sized ball hurt Brady in the SB when he picked apart Seattle with pin point pass after pin point pass. I guess the heavy ball slowed down his reads. Or slowed down his ability to check things at the line. Or look off the safeties, or when he has that 6th sense with the pass rush and steps up to avoid sacks. I guess all those things that he does so well comes down to an under deflated ball by 1.2 psi. It has nothing to do with the countless hours that he puts in. He's a great QB all cause of the deflated ball. Right?

Again, we'll just agree to disagree.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by mooby

Not as long as Goodell is the judge but also representing the NFL on this. Talk about a conflict of interest.

Judge Goodell: Commisioner Goodell, why should I keep the original punishment?
Commisioner Goodell: Because we're the same person who handed the punishment down in the first case?
Judge Goodell: Ah, great point. Punishment upheld.

(He might even throw in a little touch of Mara)
Later he whispers to Brady: You're lucky we didn't suspend you for an entire season...bitch

F Goodell. The league has become General Hospital ever since he took over.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This proves nothing, other than NE doesn't fumble the ball. Again, why didn't it help Ridley? Where is your proof that every ball they played with was deflated?

I guess that normal sized ball hurt Brady in the SB when he picked apart Seattle with pin point pass after pin point pass. I guess the heavy ball slowed down his reads. Or slowed down his ability to check things at the line. Or look off the safeties, or when he has that 6th sense with the pass rush and steps up to avoid sacks. I guess all those things that he does so well comes down to an under deflated ball by 1.2 psi. It has nothing to do with the countless hours that he puts in. He's a great QB all cause of the deflated ball. Right?

Again, we'll just agree to disagree.

Not surprising when one of us thinks and the other doesn't.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This proves nothing, other than NE doesn't fumble the ball. Again, why didn't it help Ridley?

Here you go, dingus.

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[MTK]

You can only lead the horse to water...

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Here you go, dingus.

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[Alvin Walton]

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