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12-15-2010, 12:54 PM | #1 | |
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Re: sam bradford
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Stephen Jackson is having a terrible year...the rams rushing attack averages 3.8 yards per rush, and has 7 total tds. Who is pat shurmur? I googled him and on the first page there is a movement to get him fired. Lets not get carried away on colt mccoy...he had 3 tds in 5 starts, and averages under 200 yards per game. |
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12-15-2010, 02:14 PM | #2 | |||
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And he's a key member of a good OL.
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12-15-2010, 02:57 PM | #3 | |
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Yes, I am saying that Steven Jackson is not doing well, which is not helping bradford at all. And the other RB's are doing even worse. I'm not saying that the oc is bad because I do not know if he is. I'm just saying that the fact that rams fans are calling for his job is indicative that he is clearly not the shining star that would cause bradfords success. Lets get real, nobody in their right mind thinks McCoy is even close to Bradford. Bradford is carrying his team and putting up respectable numbers with nobody. I really don't care what McCoy's passer rating is when he has a 1:1 td to int ratio, 3 tds in 5 starts, and averages under 200 yards a game. Also, McCoy greatly benefits from Hillis in the same way that Ryan and Flacco benefited from their rushing attacks back in 2008. Before you jump to conclusions, I am not saying McCoy is bad, but IMO he has not impressed yet, and is not even comparable to bradford. |
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12-15-2010, 06:45 PM | #4 |
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Someone is gaga for Bradford and won't hear of anything to the contrary
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12-15-2010, 06:52 PM | #5 |
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If you say one bad word about Chase Daniel I'll f***ing ban your ass for life!
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12-15-2010, 07:57 PM | #6 | |
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Saffold has given up only two sacks this year as a rookie LT.
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12-15-2010, 08:39 PM | #7 | |||||
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Stehpen Jackson is consider by most savvy NFL fan's one if the best RB in the league who BTW already has a 1,000+yards @ 3.9 ypc. He has 2 TEs but they aren't 'name' TEs but they're producing at a high level. Quote:
Sometimes at a bar sometimes opn RZ sometimes i even watch the NFL package 30 minute re-caps. Saffold is playing well and the Rams have a good OL. Quote:
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You don't know but you're gonna assume he's not doing a good job b/c somewhere that you don't quote claims Shurmur should be fired? If you ask me nicely i'll tell you about Shurmur, but he has designed a nice offense predicated on Bradford making easy reads and getting the ball out quick. Quote:
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12-15-2010, 08:48 PM | #8 | |
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His TEs are not named tight ends because they are not good...none of them have started a full season in their career. There is literally no way you watch enough rams games to analyze how good of a job saffold is doing week in and week out. I'm calling shenanigans on that one. I never said shurmar was bad, I just said he's not a stud oc that carries his team. Yes I do think a team movement to get him banned does say at least that much. |
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12-15-2010, 09:15 PM | #9 | |||
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How about the 1,000+ yards that goes along the with the ypc not to mention the 10th ranked yards per game that Jackson provides?
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There's literally no logic in your statement. You realize that every player at some point has never started a full season in their career at somepoint? Quote:
Also i never said i analyzed Saffold but you're making a blind claim about him just b/c it suits you're argument, which again is the absence of logic and another poster cleared up the question about Saffold quite nicely for us. Quote:
LoL a team movement? Really? Care to support claims w/something? a quote a link something |
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12-15-2010, 09:48 PM | #10 | ||||
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Second of all, there is no blind claim being made. It is a claim based on statistics. Putting ANY rookie offensive linemen in usually isn't ideal, but to have a non-first round OL really isn't ideal. Yes it's true he could be doing well. But with not having analyzed him it is not unreasonable to assume that a second round rookie OL isn't ideal. Thirdly (is that a word?), sacks is not a statistic. The reason behind that is it is too hard to know who gave up what sack. Bradford's been sacked 27 times playing in the nfc west...someone has got to be busting some coverages on that great o-line. But 2 credited is still impressive, I might be wrong and he might be good, but even if he is I do not find it wrong for me to assume that he is not an ideal blind protector this year (just like I still don't think bellicheck made the wrong decision to go for it on 4th and 2 against the colts last year) Lastly, I watch every football time slot on TV...which is 4 a week during most weeks. That's only 8 teams a week I can watch playing at any given time...so at most I'd only be able to have seen about 3 rams games so far if I chose to watch them over other games. That's simple math telling us that no, you most definitely have not watched enough rams games to make any statement about their left tackle. Quote:
And I had a typo about the "team movement" comment, I meant to say "home team movement" as in the fans not the players. But I actually just read the link I saw, and I was wrong about that too. Here's the link I saw St. Louis Please Fire Pat Shurmur Still the guy does not seem to have a good enough pedigree to credit bradfords success to him. Lastly, please stop insulting my logic, trust me, there is nothing wrong with it. |
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12-15-2010, 09:21 PM | #11 | |
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Jackson is still a stud RB if not one of the best in the league. Part of his ypc avg being below 4.0 is the 10man fronts he's facing. There is no viable deep threat to stretch the field. When games are tied he's averaging 5.0 ypc, when the Rams are behind it's 4.5 and when ahead it's only 3.1. Against Seattle and Carolina (both wins) the whole defense knew he was getting the ball and he still was running over guys though he was being hit first in the backfield and gaining very little yardage.
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But there are some former coaches turned analyst that thought very highly of and McCoy and one who claimed that McCoy was the most pro-ready of the QBs to some out last year. Quote:
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But, if you were to take an honest look at McCoy's 1st starts even statistically w/o watching the games you can see he's gone up against against some pretty good defenses like the Steelers and Jets defense that gives established NFL QBs fits he's played well. |
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81/127---63.8 comp % 975 yards 7.7 YPA 3 TDs/ 3 INTs 85.3 QB Rating I view McCoy kinda like a cross between a more disciplined version of Romo and a bigger stronger armed Jeff Garcia. Anyway here's some McCoy highlights: |
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12-16-2010, 05:29 AM | #15 | |
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I do have responses for your posts, but I'm craming for finals now. I'm not going to respond, but don't think this means I'm done...I'll be back (hopefully I'll remember to be back). |
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