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View Poll Results: What is your way too early draft grade for the '21 WFT class?
A 14 26.92%
B 32 61.54%
C 4 7.69%
D 2 3.85%
F 0 0%
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Old 05-03-2021, 07:40 PM   #31
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I have us a 'B' only because there were a couple of players we missed on that I would have liked to get when available like JOK, CB Elijah Molden, TE Tommy Trembel, LB Jabril Cox and WR Jaelon Darden who all slid further than they should have...but I am happy that Rivera had a plan and stuck to it. He watched the tape, so I trust him.


Well, you can't complain with the approach, we filled nearly every need. LB and LT were the most urgent positions and they were filled with potential stars in the league.



LB - Biggest need, potentially GREAT player picked
LT - Starter-quality player. The position is finally fixed post-Trent Williams.
CB - We have 2 solid starters already but lacked depth and a impact slot CB. Got one.
WR - Steal of our draft, made a good WR group one of the deeper in the NFL
TE - Big need for a backup TE. We took a solid, athletic blocking TE that will have a role.
S - Solid depth pick.
LS - We needed one and got one of the best available who could be here 15 years like Sundberg, Better to draft a talented one than look for a re-tread FA.
DE -If Kerrigan's not coming back, we need depth. Took two with good potential.
WR - Let's see what this last pick can do on special teams, we still need an improvement in the return game over Sims, Jr. who won't be making this team with all of the WR depth we have.
Agree overall with your post.

Just to nitpick, I really don't get the thing with JOK. We needed a real do it all/stuff the run LB, we got an athletic stud that can do that, and (not saying you, but you mentioned him) we're gonna complain about not drafting a small hybrid LB that wasn't selected by anybody until late in the 2nd ? Don't get it.
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:05 PM   #32
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Re: Post draft breakdown

Mark Bullock's breakdowns contain really interesting coach film versions of college plays:

Jamin Davis

Samuel Cosmi

I think Cosmi can start. Contrary to Saahdiq Charles his hand technique is really good ! He needs to clean up his footwork and add a real kickslide, but he seems way more NFL ready to me.
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:33 PM   #33
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I gave it an A. For one, no one knows how these picks will turn out until year two or three.



Loved every pick except the St Juste pick, and thatís ONLY because I thought there were better CBís available.



Brown was my favorite pick, and immediately upgraded our WR group.



We needed a consistent LS, itís an important position that can directly impact a game. Props to the FO replacing Sundberg.



The fact that Synder is not meddling in the draft room deserves an A alone. This is Riveraís team and he has full control.


Yeah the last couple drafts have zero stench of Snyder.
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:37 PM   #34
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Agree overall with your post.

Just to nitpick, I really don't get the thing with JOK. We needed a real do it all/stuff the run LB, we got an athletic stud that can do that, and (not saying you, but you mentioned him) we're gonna complain about not drafting a small hybrid LB that wasn't selected by anybody until late in the 2nd ? Don't get it.
Yeah, can we put the JOK thing to rest already. He wasn't high (1st round talent) on a lot of boards obviously, including WFTs. He was the 23rd defensive player picked. Davis is a better fit, and will likely be an absolute beast behind this defensive front. Not sure what there is to complain about there.
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Old 05-03-2021, 09:16 PM   #35
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I don't see it mentioned, apparently the Skins wanted to get the extra picks under the rookie draft cap or some sort of salary cap vs putting out alot of spending on the undrafted pool. Also why we only have one undrafted FA right now. Not sure how the numbers really work on that, but that was the explanation given by Rivera. Saw this in a Finlay tweet.
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Old 05-03-2021, 09:45 PM   #36
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I give our draft an 8.647. It would have been an 8.739 if Cosmiís arms were an inch longer. It would have been an 8.525 if we hadnít taken Camembert Cheeseman. There will be a trick play installed just to show off his draft status and get him name-checked.

Overall, strong picks: good athletes, team players, fast, and versatile. Our WR draft curse is over.
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Old 05-03-2021, 10:23 PM   #37
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I don't see it mentioned, apparently the Skins wanted to get the extra picks under the rookie draft cap or some sort of salary cap vs putting out alot of spending on the undrafted pool. Also why we only have one undrafted FA right now. Not sure how the numbers really work on that, but that was the explanation given by Rivera. Saw this in a Finlay tweet.


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I don't think I've ever heard of that strategy, but it makes some sense if the UDFA targets you have in mind aren't graded much differently than anyone left in the last round.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:40 AM   #38
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I gave them a C. Not that I disliked the players taken (I always seemed to draft Davis in my mocks) I just thought they were too conservative and averse to taking a risk when given an opportunity. I think we could have traded with the Vikes (who stated they tried to move up 4-5 picks) and picked up some draft capitol and likely have had Davis at pick 23. and I didn't like the trade up for Cheeseman especially given the assessments that the 2022 draft will be stronger.
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:15 AM   #39
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Every year it seems like the same shit. People bitching about draft picks, or where they were taken, or why someone didn't do their research.

My only question is if your talent evaluation skills are better than theirs, why are you online complaining on a forum instead of getting paid to tell coaches your opinion.

3 years from now if any of these players turn into quality pros nobody will give two shits about where they were drafted or what price was paid.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:35 AM   #40
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According to CBS Sports, JOK was diagnosed with a heart condition which caused him to fall on some draft boards.
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Old 05-04-2021, 07:44 AM   #41
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I love the concept that trading a 5th round pick is mortgaging our future. Particularly when one of the two resulting picks likely will be on the team for 8-10 years if NFL position history holds true.

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Old 05-04-2021, 08:00 AM   #42
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Mortgaging the future would have been trading multiple 1s to trade up to draft a QB.

I see a roster with 3 capable guys at QB and a better team now after Saturday.
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Hatters gonna hat. Listening to Sheehan said NFL people he talked to said none of the late round QBs graded out as high as Wilson or Cousins. Cooley also graded out Trask, Mond and Mills and said none are worth more than a 5th but you would have to draft in the third. Kinda called that. I just don't see drafting a QB for the sake of drafting a QB.
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:03 AM   #44
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Already seeing chatter that Vikings fans think Mond could start over Cousins?! Get the F outta here, so dumb
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I don't see it mentioned, apparently the Skins wanted to get the extra picks under the rookie draft cap or some sort of salary cap vs putting out alot of spending on the undrafted pool. Also why we only have one undrafted FA right now. Not sure how the numbers really work on that, but that was the explanation given by Rivera. Saw this in a Finlay tweet.

Interesting nugget from Rivera - Washington made late round trade to acquire more picks so they could avoid having to pay more $$ for undrafted rookie free agents. WFT has only signed 1 UDFA thus far, and the team is bringing in more free agents this week, not just rookies

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