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Old 06-25-2019, 04:40 PM   #1
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It does not matter if we think Smith is worth the money - Smith and Redskins agreed to the contract and there is no way for Redskins to back out from the contract unless Smith retires. Therefore, we must account the money for Smith until his contract expires or Smith retires.
I know that! It's damn shame our front office was stupid enough to sign this weak arm, mediocre qb to all that money.
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Old 06-25-2019, 04:34 PM   #2
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I'm just being completely honest. Check down Alex reminds me of Mark Brunell. Just as sorry excuse for a NFL qb. I'm not saying he hasn't had a good career. But he was never going to take this team anywhere. He has a weak ass arm, no accuracy, and overrated mobility. I'm not saying that it's all his fault the offense was crap, because in my opinion Jay Gruden below average play calling help contribute to that. All I'm saying is that Check down Alex is a below average qb.

Do you anyone really thinks Check down Alex is worth this type of money? Only a complete buffoon would paid this bum 42 million in one season. I remember when we traded for him. I told my uncle that Check down Alex sucks and Andy Reid was going to get over on us again. One year later I look like a goddamn genius.

I agree with everything you said. He should never play football again mainly because he's horrible.
The first two statements in bold are in contradiction. And he's not a below average QB -- what matters most is wins, and by that measure, he's well above average. It's simply not possible to credibly contend otherwise.

On your prediction and IQ, you flatter yourself. I seriously doubt you predicted he'd have a grisly, career-threatening injury that would have these cap implications. If you have those kinds of prognosticatory skills, you shouldn't waste them on football. I suspect your uncle would give you the same advice. Perhaps you might consider following it.

Again, horrible is really not a fair characterization. But by all means, double down on your rant.
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:39 PM   #3
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Checkdown Alex is garbage. He needs to retire. We need to do everything we can to get him off of our books. We must release him as soon as possible.

Unfortunately, the cap hits will be enormous

2019 - 42 million
2020 - 32 million
2021 - 10.8 million

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:09 AM   #4
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Unfortunately, the cap hits will be enormous

2019 - 42 million
2020 - 32 million
2021 - 10.8 million

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/
Most likely scenario is to release him next year as a designated June 1 cut
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:34 AM   #5
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

He will not play again, he has to say "I hope to play again" of course he says that eating up millions to rehab, we all knew he wouldn't retire and walk away from that payday.
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Old 06-24-2019, 11:35 AM   #6
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

Because the skins took out an insurance policy on Smith, if he is never medically cleared to play again, they get a 12M cap credit.

If Smith wants to keep playing, that's his right to do so, but given his age, the severity of the injury, the fact that the skins have already signed his long-term replacement relegating him to being a backup, and the amount of guaranteed money he still has from the deal... it would seem to be in his long-term physical and financial best interests to simply not play football again.
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Old 07-09-2019, 12:39 PM   #7
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

I thought the QB's job was to win games, something Smith has done quite a bit of (96-71-1).
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

What is the point to be so angry and mad about Alex? He is injured, he won't be playing this year, and likely not ever again (at least here).

If I spent so much time angry at past stuff this team or its players did that I did not like, my head would explode.

Let it go and move on. We even got a potential young franchise QB out of it.
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Old 07-09-2019, 05:42 PM   #9
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I thought the QB's job was to win games, something Smith has done quite a bit of (96-71-1).
Why does he have a winning record? It's not because of him. It's because of the teams he played on and you know it. If he was so good why did he get released by both San Fran and KC?

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What is the point to be so angry and mad about Alex? He is injured, he won't be playing this year, and likely not ever again (at least here).

If I spent so much time angry at past stuff this team or its players did that I did not like, my head would explode.

Let it go and move on. We even got a potential young franchise QB out of it.
I'm not angry with check down Alex. I'm angry with the people who brought him here. I knew he was pure garbage from the very beginning. I'm very happy that he'll never play for us again.
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Why does he have a winning record? It's not because of him. It's because of the teams he played on and you know it. If he was so good why did he get released by both San Fran and KC?



I'm not angry with check down Alex. I'm angry with the people who brought him here. I knew he was pure garbage from the very beginning. I'm very happy that he'll never play for us again.
Alex lost his job because of a concussion in SF, Coach Harbaugh saw Kaepernick as having more upside and stayed with him. Maybe you didn't notice, but the guy who took his job ended up being benched for Blaine Gabbert. He was figured out as fool's gold just like RG3.
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Old 07-09-2019, 07:46 PM   #11
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Alex lost his job because of a concussion in SF, Coach Harbaugh saw Kaepernick as having more upside and stayed with him. Maybe you didn't notice, but the guy who took his job ended up being benched for Blaine Gabbert. He was figured out as fool's gold just like RG3.
Check down Alex lost his job because he wasn't all that good. Colin "Strictly Zone Read" Kaepernick took his job become of performance. If Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers got hit with a concussion today or tomorrow they would still be welcomed back with open arms. Check down Alex was let go. KC released him after a career year. The very next year Patrick MaHomes showed the world that the KC offense is three times as good without check down Alex. Just face it! We spent tens of millions of dollars for an average at best qb.
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

I seriously doubt if Alex Smith will ever play another game in the NFL. This year he recovers and coaches up Dwayne Haskins. Next season Dwayne will be the starter one way or another, which means Alex - if he fully recovers will be the backup or third string QB. There is little incentive for Alex to further risk his health playing in the NFL - he gets paid regardless. Thank you Bruce, for this ridiculous contract for a QB who was 35.
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Re: If Smith returns....HYPOTHETICALLY speaking.....

Smith probably wouldn't have agreed to a "stopgap contract". Nobody could have predicted he would suffer a catastrophic injury. It sucks for both sides. No use in crying about it now.
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Smith probably wouldn't have agreed to a "stopgap contract". Nobody could have predicted he would suffer a catastrophic injury. It sucks for both sides. No use in crying about it now.
Alex hasn't been an injury-prone QB. He may have not agreed to a 1-2 year deal, why should he? But Bruce signed a 35-year old QB for a 5-year contract, based on his wins, which he got by playing a "no mistakes" brand of football for very good teams.

Allen should have sucked it up with a one-year QB until we could draft for a franchise QB. I'm not blaming Alex smith, he got the most that he could and unfortunately got hurt. I'm blaming Bruce Allen for making a dumb personnel move that will cost the 'skins lots of cap money.
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Alex hasn't been an injury-prone QB. He may have not agreed to a 1-2 year deal, why should he? But Bruce signed a 35-year old QB for a 5-year contract, based on his wins, which he got by playing a "no mistakes" brand of football for very good teams.

Allen should have sucked it up with a one-year QB until we could draft for a franchise QB. I'm not blaming Alex smith, he got the most that he could and unfortunately got hurt. I'm blaming Bruce Allen for making a dumb personnel move that will cost the 'skins lots of cap money.
Unless you have the foresight of knowing that he was going to have a season/potentially career ending injury, I don't get about the complaints about Smith's contract. People would have gone ape shit here, if they'd sign Keenum last year as a stop gap. QBs are always overpaid, and even a stopgap QB would have cost money.

Also, the team was winning with Alex's "no mistakes" brand of football. Not the way people liked it, but they were winning. And things would have been a hell of a lot better, had Alex stayed healthy.
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