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Old 12-19-2019, 07:22 PM   #31
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My god the officiating this season has been terrible.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:51 PM   #32
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I would go as far to say that Payne and Allen are being used the wrong way. Allen isn't a 3-4 DE. That is not his best position at all and it's stupid to ever put him at the position. He should be a 4-3 one gap attacking DT. Also Payne should never be used as a 3-4 NT. He's not a Casey Hampton type that is suppose to take on a center and a guard and eat up blocks. Both of those guys should be in positions to attack more and be disruptive. Holcomb should be a sideline to sideline MLB so he is able to use his speed more.
Any play, even one, where those dudes aren't one gapping is a waste of talent.

Any play where Kerrigan or Sweat is covering anybody is a waste. So stupid.



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Old 12-20-2019, 04:26 AM   #33
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Any play, even one, where those dudes aren't one gapping is a waste of talent.

Any play where Kerrigan or Sweat is trying to cover anybody is a waste. So stupid.



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Fixed it for you. (Not a shot at them, I just think it's absurd to ask them to).
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Old 12-20-2019, 08:20 AM   #34
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Iím praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4


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Old 12-20-2019, 09:23 AM   #35
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A loss would get us closer to a BlueChip player that isn't available later in the first round.
This is the deference between Khalil Mack and Ryan Kerrigan or Julio Jones and Josh Doctson.
It's Young/Jeudy or bust.
This and this only. If we end up getting Young and he becomes Khalil Mack like, no one...NO ONE will be going, yeah he's great and all...but I still wish we'd have beaten the Giants in week 16 back in 2019!! However...we are the Redskins, so even we do get him, he'll probably be the next Preston Smith here...or often injured.
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:44 AM   #36
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Iím praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4


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Old 12-20-2019, 12:07 PM   #37
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the right coach with the right scheme will run a lot of different formations and packages but would also use the players to the best of their potential .... so we'd see both but with the correct people in the right places at the right times
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:12 PM   #38
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What a mixed emorions game. The offense clicked last week and I don't want to see a regression against a horrible Giants defense, so I want us to score a ton, but i want Manusky gone, so we need to give up a ton, preferably to Barkely on sceeen passes, not runs up the middle.

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Old 12-20-2019, 12:33 PM   #39
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What a mixed emorions game. The offense clicked last week and I don't want to see a regression against a horrible Giants defense, so I want us to score a ton, but i want Manusky gone, so we need to give up a ton, preferably to Barkely on sceeen passes, not runs up the middle.

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I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.
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Old 12-20-2019, 12:42 PM   #40
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I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.
Agreed, we need more losses like that one
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:48 PM   #41
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I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.
Well the problem is a competitive game against the Giants in their current state is a step back from competitive games against the packers and eagles. Thats why i want to see our offense light up their defense and their offense light up our defense

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Old 12-20-2019, 09:10 PM   #42
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You're always so dismissive of this discussion.

Is the roster better suited for a 3-4?
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Old 12-21-2019, 12:22 AM   #43
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The Eagles fans were shitting themselves until the last few minutes. There were a lot of positive parts of the offense and defense.

If the team was properly coached in the defense, especially and the offense - this team would IMMEDIATELY improve quite a lot A new GM will eliminate all the hurt and worthless FA (like Norman), which will free up a lot cap room. Some new FA, like at TE, will help the team quite a bit, but the primary emphasis must be on bringing up another excellent class of rookies, like this year.

The most important change is firing BA and bringing in elite NFL coaches and a knowledgeable GM.
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Old 12-21-2019, 05:28 AM   #44
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You're always so dismissive of this discussion.

Is the roster better suited for a 3-4?
Yeah I don't think it's that ridiculous to think switching to a 4-3 would indeed make quite a difference. Sheehan and Cooley have both been advocating for it for quite some time.
Now, the priority absolutely is for the guys to be well coached. But I don't think this discussion is irrelevant at all.

Plus, I've often read here, as an argument for "it wouldn't change much", that we already play a lot of snaps in a 4-3... which is false: we rarely do. We do run a lot of snaps in Nickel 4-2-5 but very rarely in a 4-3. You have to think it does make quite a difference against the run.
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You're always so dismissive of this discussion.



Is the roster better suited for a 3-4?


I just think itís funny since people were clamoring for the 3-4 for years.

And I think itís more important whoís coaching the D vs the base alignment we run about 30% of the time.


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