Most likely to be back with the team next year?

[MTK]

vote and discuss

[Redskins_P]

I'm saying neither just because I hope they both go.......but they will probably keep Lloyd.

[djnemo65]

I think that they would get rid of both of them if it was possible, but since it isn't, I think it's more likely they will stick with Lloyd. Gibbs sees something in him and will try to put him in a position to be successful. Lloyd at least has all the abilities necessary for success, while it's uncertain if Arch still does at this point in his career.

[Redskinhog1963]

but they will probably keep Lloyd.

so do i,but archuletta's salary cup hit is 8 million dollars next year is'nt it?

[MTK]

Gibbs today in his presser said that both players figure in their plans for next year... but seeing how the season ended for both guys that's a little hard to believe right now.

[jsarno]

Seeing as the thread is "MOST LIKELY" I say Lloyd. But I feel both will be back due to cap numbers.
I just hope Archuletta either finds his niche, or converts back to LB.

[skinsguy]

If either one goes to another team, you can just about guarantee next season, both Loyd and AA will be in the pro bowl.

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Seeing as the thread is "MOST LIKELY" I say Lloyd. But I feel both will be back due to cap numbers.
I just hope Archuletta either finds his niche, or converts back to LB.

I agree which is why I said both. Besides the stiff salary cap hit, I think a few coaches out there want to show they didn't make 2 horrible FA decisions with these two.

[wolfeskins]

i say both will be back and both will be huge reasons the skins win the superbowl next season.

[724Skinsfan]

I'm thinking both will be back as well barring any future blowups between either player and the coaching staff/front office. A lot has been invested in both and it's hard to just give up on them after one year in which just about everybody had a down year. I hope GW can find some niche, some scheme that fits AA's style rather than continue to force him to play (or not play) in the current setup. I'm not saying GW needs to change everything to suit AA, I'm just saying he should tweak his system just enough so that everybody's strengths get maximized.

[SKINSnCANES]

both will be back, unless they get rid of the salary cap...

[12thMan]

I think they keep Arch, can Lloyd.

[charlielyons]

i think that all depends on our draft....if we make a blockbuster trade with det. or houston for williams or johnson,,i say he goes but if not he stays ....i really dont think thet can afford to let go of arch. i see them making taylor SS and letting arch do FS becasue taylor can do both unlike arch

[Schneed10]

Cap Impact:

Archuleta is scheduled to count $2.4 million in 2007. If you cut him, you take a $9 million cap hit, or $6.6 million more than what we currently have him on the books for. If you cut him as a Post June 1 cut, you bring his 2007 cap number down to $1.8 million, meaning you've created $600K in space for 2007. Then in 2008, you have to carry $7.1 million of deadcap money, which is $3.3 million more than the $3.8 million he's scheduled to count that year.

Summary: the Post June 1 cut makes it very doable, especially considering the cap should be around $116 million come 2008.

Lloyd's contract is almost identical. He is scheduled to count $2.4 million in 2007. If you cut him, you take a $9 million cap hit, or $6.6 million more than what we currently have him on the books for. If you cut him as a Post June 1 cut, you bring his 2007 cap number down to $1.8 million, meaning you've created $600K in space for 2007. Then in 2008, you have to carry $7.1 million of deadcap money, which is $2.9 million more than the $4.2 million he's scheduled to count that year.

Summary: Just as for Archuleta, cutting Lloyd as a Post June 1 cut is very doable.

It would really suck to carry $14.2 million in 2008 deadcap for two players. But the team could do it. We did something similar for Trotter and Coles. Each team is allowed to designate two Post June 1 cuts that can be released from the team before June 1. The team would get the Post June 1 cap benefits, while at the same time freeing Lloyd and Archuleta to pursue other opportunities.

I think Archuleta is surely gone. As for Lloyd, I just don't know. I could see him gone, I could see him staying.

[Schneed10]

After reading all about how bad the locker room situation is, how players are sick of how the Redskins treat outside free agents, and how much B Lloyd is disliked, I think the team really needs to can Arch and Lloyd just to reestablish a sense of justice and accountability in the locker room.

The team also needs to re-up with Dockery to show that it means business about keeping core guys here. I don't care if we have to pay Dockery more than Eric Steinbach gets, the front office and Gibbs need to show the players that the term "Real Redskin" doesn't mean "we like you, if you accept a discounted contract."