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Old 04-04-2007, 02:36 PM   #1
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Marcus Washington gone?

Hey, check this out. This is from Yahoo Sports about the needs of the NFC. Look at the write up on our LB corp. This has to be BS. Are there plans for the FO to get rid of Marcus W? I thought he was the one of the only bright spots on a lackluster defense. He is probably our most skilled defensive player why would we get rid of him?

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Washington Redskins
Team needs:
DE, CB, OG, S, LB
Overall pick/round: 6 (1), 143 (5), 179 (6), 205 (6), 216 (7)
DE: They need a pass rusher, but they have to decide if it's worth bypassing a chance to take Gaines Adams or Jamaal Anderson to trade down for an extra choice. If the Redskins were to deal down, they could set their sights on someone like Jarvis Moss or Charles Johnson, and then still have the ability to add a defensive back from the extra pick for dropping down.
CB: Shawn Springs could be a cap casualty come June 1 and Carlos Rogers needs to rebound from an average campaign last season. They have only one choice on the first day, so unless that changes, they will be finding more of a raw-tools prospect in the later rounds.
OG: They lost Derrick Dockery via free agency and have failed to a long-term replacement on the open market, although they feel veteran Todd Wade might be able to fill the void for next season. It would be a good investment to spend a late-round choice on a guy like Robert Turner, Aaron Brant or Corey Davis.
S: The Redskins signed and then misused Adam Archuleta, who was recently dealt to the Bears. They now have an array of veterans on the roster that they will try to pair with All-Pro Sean Taylor. Second-year pro Reed Doughty may have the best upside, but either way, this position needs an upgrade in quality depth.
LB: Even with the signing of London Fletcher and the expected development of Rocky McIntosh, this is still an area of concern. However, they have been the market-setters in terms of trying to acquire Bears All-Pro OLB Lance Briggs. There is a chance that veteran outside linebacker Marcus Washington could be a June 1 cap casualty. If not, he is likely to be jettisoned after next season, so finding a mid-to-late round prospect is a smart move.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:37 PM   #2
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Re: Marcus Washington gone?

This is BS. Washington is one of the best, if not the best, all around player we have on the team.
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:07 PM   #3
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This is BS. Washington is one of the best, if not the best, all around player we have on the team.
STFU!!! ... I love Washington. He cannot go ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:43 PM   #4
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S: The Redskins signed and then misused Adam Archuleta, who was recently dealt to the Bears. They now have an array of veterans on the roster that they will try to pair with All-Pro Sean Taylor. Second-year pro Reed Doughty may have the best upside, but either way, this position needs an upgrade in quality depth.

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this is the part that gets me...we didn't misuse him...we had injuries, he's a football player, we expected him to help pick up the slack...just because he sucked doesn't make it our fault
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:45 PM   #5
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Washington's cap figures aren't anything outrageous, I really don't think he's in danger of being cut.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:48 PM   #6
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Can you say bullshit. Last time I checked M Washington was arguably our best defender and a team leader. You let those kind of guys go???
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:04 PM   #7
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Can you say bullshit. Last time I checked M Washington was arguably our best defender and a team leader. You let those kind of guys go???

Well...........
Smoot
Pierce
Lavar (i know, but i still miss the guy)
Clark
Champ (i am happy w/ the trade though)
Kenny Wright (j/k)


Washington is one of our top 3 defensive players - but werent all of these guys top 5 when with us. Old Gregerory thinks anyone is interchanble is his genious D.

I do think this yahoo artical is complete bs, but bringing in a big time FA to replace Washington could be a "priority" for this FO. Its not like a overachieving team leader has been replaced before with a big FA contract
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:06 PM   #8
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Well...........
Smoot
Pierce
Lavar (i know, but i still miss the guy)
Clark
Champ (i am happy w/ the trade though)
Kenny Wright (j/k)


Washington is one of our top 3 defensive players - but werent all of these guys top 5 when with us. Old Gregerory thinks anyone is interchanble is his genious D.

I do think this yahoo artical is complete bs, but bringing in a big time FA to replace Washington could be a "priority" for this FO. Its not like a overachieving team leader has been replaced before with a big FA contract
You can cross Mr. Smoot off that list. Pierce is the only one of those guys I miss, we should've never let him get away. Lavar was much better at running his mouth and being a malcontent than actually playing football.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:56 AM   #9
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You can cross Mr. Smoot off that list. Pierce is the only one of those guys I miss, we should've never let him get away. Lavar was much better at running his mouth and being a malcontent than actually playing football.
You don't miss Ryan Clark? Man, I sure do. We could have kept him for pennies on the dollar compared to Archuletta's contract. Plus he and Taylor were great together. #21 regressed in Clark's absence.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:21 AM   #10
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You don't miss Ryan Clark? Man, I sure do. We could have kept him for pennies on the dollar compared to Archuletta's contract. Plus he and Taylor were great together. #21 regressed in Clark's absence.
Count me in the we handled our safety situation improperly last year group, but I'm not convinced it has much to do with Ryan Clark. By most accounts at the time, Archuleta was an upgrade. He ended up being unecessary with Taylor still around and also ended up being damaged goods, so we kinda got screwed also. We didn't get screwed any worse though then if we were to find out that Ryan Clark had gotten hurt and couldn't run or tackle well anymore. We just spent a lot of money to get unlucky.

I'm starting to think that while Free Agency is a viable way to build a roster, big money signings are almost never going to help your team. The best values as players come without hype. The only players that you should overpay for are ones that have unique attributes that you can't get anywhere but that one player. I'm starting to think you should never spend big for need alone.

One lesson that has to come out of this is that investing big into a 2nd safety is never a good idea because crap like that happens. People like Ryan Clark are all over the waiver wire. Heck, Pierson Prioleau is on our team and should do exactly what Clark did for us in 05. Safety is a position where you can always find a long term solution cheap, especially if you have a dominant player at the other safety.

I'm not sure that Sean Taylor will ever be a dominant player because his cover skills are barely adequate, even for a safety. In today's game, the truely dominant safeties have to be able to cover. If Taylor stops playing out of position, he can be a slightly above average player in this league (as compared to Roy Williams who will never even be average because he's playing in the wrong era).

But unless slightly above average is unacceptable for a safety (and on a defense thats this bad, its not like a poor covering safety is the reason for everything that goes wrong--far from it), Taylor's good enough to be a playmaker in the secondary. I just don't see him getting all that much better over time. His skill set seems better build for the NFL of the 1990's than the present day game.

The point still stands though. As long as we are going to pay Taylor like a No. 1 safety, we don't bring in another expensive option. Too much can go wrong for very little payoff. (See: Archuleta, Adam)
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:15 PM   #11
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total bullshit, don't even pay attention to it. Gibbs uses Marcus Washington as proof free agents can pay out every time someone says we are idiots.
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Old 04-05-2007, 04:03 AM   #12
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Re: Marcus Washington gone?

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Well...........
Smoot
Pierce
Lavar (i know, but i still miss the guy)
Clark
Champ (i am happy w/ the trade though)
Kenny Wright (j/k)


Washington is one of our top 3 defensive players - but werent all of these guys top 5 when with us. Old Gregerory thinks anyone is interchanble is his genious D.

I do think this yahoo artical is complete bs, but bringing in a big time FA to replace Washington could be a "priority" for this FO. Its not like a overachieving team leader has been replaced before with a big FA contract
WIth the exception of Lavar, these were all guys whose deals were up. Washington is still under contract. Different situation.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:18 PM   #13
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Re: Marcus Washington gone?

Can I please get paid to write opinions that contain no actual thought, investigation, or basis in fact? Pretty please?
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:18 PM   #14
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These guys don't follow the Skins like we do. This type of outrageous punditry is very common. Washington is not going anywhere.
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:20 PM   #15
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Yeah, you didn't hear, we're also cutting Portis and trading Campbell. Sheesh. What a load of crap.
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