Snyder ranked as league's 5th best owner

Dirtbag59 · 07-02-2007, 11:41 PM

SI.com - Writers - Michael Silver: Ranking the NFL owners - Monday July 2, 2007 4:25PM

5. Daniel Snyder, Redskins

Though he has yet to make the Redskins a consistent winner, owner Daniel Snyder has succeeded in making his team one of the most valuable in all of sports.
William E. Amatucci Jr./WireImage.com

If anything, Snyder tries too hard to build a winner. In January '06, when Snyder wooed former Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders with a three-year deal worth more than $2 million annually, it seemed like a great move on paper. Instead, Saunders' philosophy clashed with that of head coach Joe Gibbs, which was one reason the team fell from a playoff appearance in '05 to a 5-11 finish last season. Snyder's zealous mentality also enables Gibbs and VP of football operations Vinny Cerrato to overpay for free agents like Adam Archuleta, Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd, none of which helps the on-field product.
But hey, at least he's trying. Snyder will get it right eventually, if only because he won't settle for anything less -- a quality far too owners possess. And he is pulling in an enormous profit in the meantime, thanks to his innovative marketing strategies. He's also more of a team player on the league level than you might imagine, as evidenced by his willingness to go along with the revenue-sharing plan that ensured labor peace in the spring of '06.

NicknacK89 · 07-02-2007, 11:43 PM

aren't the redskins the most valuable franchise at like 1.6 billion?

MTK · 07-02-2007, 11:48 PM

Fair assessment, I'm actually surprised to see him that high.

GMScud · 07-03-2007, 12:11 AM

I agree that it was a fair assessment. That is also why, in light of that assessment, I was initially shocked to see #5 next to his name. I agree that he wants to win and is relentlessly dedicated to that end. But his ego go in his way. He thought because he was an avid FAN that he could run a team. No dice. It took him a decade to realize that he has to turn things over to football people. And we still don't have a GM.

But the criteria were: business savvy, devotion to league growth, aggressive pursuit of winning. That in mind, he deserves the #5.

kirbyfan · 07-03-2007, 02:01 AM

Synder definately does some things correct but from what people outside the area tell me, hes kind of viewed like Steinbrenner in NY...just trying to buy a champ every year.

hail_2_da_skins · 07-03-2007, 10:01 AM

This was a very good assessment, ranking owners relative to their worth to the entire NFL. Snyder is one of the better owners in the league. He is one of the most controversial owners also. A lot of fans hate him because they think he just wants to buy a championship. Isn't that a novel idea, "An owner that wants to win!" Don't you think the people in Arizona want to see a championship. Don't you think the people in Arizona want an owner that will invest in his team to put the best product on the field. I will take a Dan Snyder over a Bill Bidwell any day.

12thMan · 07-03-2007, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicknacK89

aren't the redskins the most valuable franchise at like 1.6 billion?

I think we're the most profitable, but the Yanks may be the most valuble.

MTK · 07-03-2007, 10:20 AM

The Skins are valued #1 in all of sports

ESPN.com: SPORTSBUSINESS - Forbes Franchise Values

GTripp0012 · 07-03-2007, 10:28 AM

I wonder how much it will cost to buy the Expos...

freddyg12 · 07-03-2007, 10:33 AM

Very good assessment. People that bash him typically don't factor in the biz side of thing, or if they do they point out that he gouges fans to pay for overpriced free agents.
I like that it said he'll evenutally get it right. I believe he will, he's too smart & committed not to, plus he's got a hall of famer to learn the business from, somebody that he may actually listen to, rather than the other way around.

Rajmahal33 · 07-03-2007, 10:54 AM

I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill
#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com

hooskins · 07-03-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers.

Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out
ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL

Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill
#1 Manchester United - Forbes.com

New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com

Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill
#2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com

Assuming these numbers we are the 2nd most right behind Man U. I think thaty is just the way these numbers are lining up though because the Skins one is from 06.

Mc2guy · 07-03-2007, 04:02 PM

Can you imagine where that value would go if we could actually win a few playoff games and *gasp* a championship.

Synder did a good job of taking over a very valuable franchise and making it more valuable, but I don't consider it any stroke of genius. The primary reasons for the Redskins profitability is a large and mostly affluent regional fan base (ticket prices are "affordable" by regional standards), and an enormous and wholly owned stadium in which to pack all those affluent ticket purchasers. Neither of those creations are due to Synder...both came before he bought the team.

Where he has excelled is in the ancillary marketing and sales, e.g., owned media whereby advertizing revenue goes to the team, shrewd local TV distribution contracts, and non-competitive event revenue (beach blitz, etc)...things that all owners could do in theory but don't. Frankly what Snyder has done is pretty simple in terms of revenue extraction, and it doesn't take a genius to market a product on which you have a monopoly.

I'll give credit to Synder the NFL team owner when he wins a ring, until then he's just a good marketer with a confidence problem using his cash to overcome his management shortcomings. Personally, I'd rank him closer to 11 or 12.

70Chip · 07-03-2007, 04:26 PM

The piece makes it sound like he went after Saunders in spite of Gibbs. Gibbs was the one who wanted Saunders. The dunderheads who cover the league seem oblivious to the fact that all the football decisions in the last three years have been made by Gibbs. But then they couldn't portray Snyder as the control freak and then where would they be? They rely on on those stock portraits of various figures so they don't have to actually find out what goes on. ESPN is exactly the same. This is more attrocious writing from SI. Every time I click on one of their links, it gets worse.

That Guy · 07-03-2007, 11:57 PM

5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.

07-02-2007, 11:48 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner Fair assessment, I'm actually surprised to see him that high. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-03-2007, 12:11 AM	#4
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner I agree that it was a fair assessment. That is also why, in light of that assessment, I was initially shocked to see #5 next to his name. I agree that he wants to win and is relentlessly dedicated to that end. But his ego go in his way. He thought because he was an avid FAN that he could run a team. No dice. It took him a decade to realize that he has to turn things over to football people. And we still don't have a GM. But the criteria were: business savvy, devotion to league growth, aggressive pursuit of winning. That in mind, he deserves the #5. __________________ Tardy

07-03-2007, 10:01 AM	#6
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 69 Posts: 868	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner This was a very good assessment, ranking owners relative to their worth to the entire NFL. Snyder is one of the better owners in the league. He is one of the most controversial owners also. A lot of fans hate him because they think he just wants to buy a championship. Isn't that a novel idea, "An owner that wants to win!" Don't you think the people in Arizona want to see a championship. Don't you think the people in Arizona want an owner that will invest in his team to put the best product on the field. I will take a Dan Snyder over a Bill Bidwell any day. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

07-03-2007, 10:20 AM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner The Skins are valued #1 in all of sports ESPN.com: SPORTSBUSINESS - Forbes Franchise Values __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

07-03-2007, 10:28 AM	#9
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner I wonder how much it will cost to buy the Expos...

07-02-2007, 11:41 PM	#1
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Snyder ranked as league's 5th best owner SI.com - Writers - Michael Silver: Ranking the NFL owners - Monday July 2, 2007 4:25PM 5. Daniel Snyder, Redskins Though he has yet to make the Redskins a consistent winner, owner Daniel Snyder has succeeded in making his team one of the most valuable in all of sports. William E. Amatucci Jr./WireImage.com If anything, Snyder tries too hard to build a winner. In January '06, when Snyder wooed former Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders with a three-year deal worth more than $2 million annually, it seemed like a great move on paper. Instead, Saunders' philosophy clashed with that of head coach Joe Gibbs, which was one reason the team fell from a playoff appearance in '05 to a 5-11 finish last season. Snyder's zealous mentality also enables Gibbs and VP of football operations Vinny Cerrato to overpay for free agents like Adam Archuleta, Antwaan Randle El and Brandon Lloyd, none of which helps the on-field product. But hey, at least he's trying. Snyder will get it right eventually, if only because he won't settle for anything less -- a quality far too owners possess. And he is pulling in an enormous profit in the meantime, thanks to his innovative marketing strategies. He's also more of a team player on the league level than you might imagine, as evidenced by his willingness to go along with the revenue-sharing plan that ensured labor peace in the spring of '06. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

07-02-2007, 11:43 PM	#2
NicknacK89 Special Teams Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 184	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner aren't the redskins the most valuable franchise at like 1.6 billion?

07-03-2007, 02:01 AM	#5
kirbyfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 23	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner Synder definately does some things correct but from what people outside the area tell me, hes kind of viewed like Steinbrenner in NY...just trying to buy a champ every year.

07-03-2007, 10:33 AM	#10
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner Very good assessment. People that bash him typically don't factor in the biz side of thing, or if they do they point out that he gouges fans to pay for overpriced free agents. I like that it said he'll evenutally get it right. I believe he will, he's too smart & committed not to, plus he's got a hall of famer to learn the business from, somebody that he may actually listen to, rather than the other way around.

07-03-2007, 10:54 AM	#11
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner I think you have it backwards. If anything we are the most valuable in terms of worth and assets, but the yankees are probably more profitable in terms of merchandise sales, tickets (remember there are a LOT more baseball games than football ones), etc. I would like to see some numbers on profitability. But we are without a doubt the most valuable sports franchise in all of the world, at least according the latest Forbes magazine numbers. Redskins - $1.423 bill according to Aug 2006 numbers which i am sure has increased since those numbers came out ESPN - Forbes: Five NFL franchises worth over $1 billion - NFL Manchester U (2007) - $1.453 bill #1 Manchester United - Forbes.com New York Yankees (2007) - $1.2 bill #1 New York Yankees - Forbes.com Real Madrid (2007) - $1.036 bill #2 Real Madrid - Forbes.com __________________ McNasty FTW!

07-03-2007, 04:02 PM	#13
Mc2guy Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Burke, VA Age: 48 Posts: 287	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner Can you imagine where that value would go if we could actually win a few playoff games and gasp a championship. Synder did a good job of taking over a very valuable franchise and making it more valuable, but I don't consider it any stroke of genius. The primary reasons for the Redskins profitability is a large and mostly affluent regional fan base (ticket prices are "affordable" by regional standards), and an enormous and wholly owned stadium in which to pack all those affluent ticket purchasers. Neither of those creations are due to Synder...both came before he bought the team. Where he has excelled is in the ancillary marketing and sales, e.g., owned media whereby advertizing revenue goes to the team, shrewd local TV distribution contracts, and non-competitive event revenue (beach blitz, etc)...things that all owners could do in theory but don't. Frankly what Snyder has done is pretty simple in terms of revenue extraction, and it doesn't take a genius to market a product on which you have a monopoly. I'll give credit to Synder the NFL team owner when he wins a ring, until then he's just a good marketer with a confidence problem using his cash to overcome his management shortcomings. Personally, I'd rank him closer to 11 or 12.

07-03-2007, 04:26 PM	#14
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 54 Posts: 3,048	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner The piece makes it sound like he went after Saunders in spite of Gibbs. Gibbs was the one who wanted Saunders. The dunderheads who cover the league seem oblivious to the fact that all the football decisions in the last three years have been made by Gibbs. But then they couldn't portray Snyder as the control freak and then where would they be? They rely on on those stock portraits of various figures so they don't have to actually find out what goes on. ESPN is exactly the same. This is more attrocious writing from SI. Every time I click on one of their links, it gets worse. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

07-03-2007, 11:57 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Synder ranked as leagues 5th best owner 5 is too high. it's about winning, and no matter how expensive it is, a turd is a turd is a turd. let's win something.

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