ARE vs. Lloyd for the number 2 WR spot

[Bill B]

Just heard on Sporstalk 980 from the Redskin report by Jerry Coleman that ARE leads Brandon Llyod for the number 2 WR spot opposite of Moss. Not looking to good for Llyod but it is only training camp - but this has got to be a big letdown to Llyod and his supporters since this is probably Llyod's put up some numbers or be cut year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Just heard on Sporstalk 980 from the Redskin report by Jerry Coleman that ARE leads Bradon Llyod for the number 2 WR spot opposite of Moss. Not looking to good for Llyod but it is only training camp - but this has got to be a big letdown to Llyod and his supporters since this is probably Llyod's put up some numbers or be cut year.

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

I was wondering why he didn't practice with JC as well and instead trained with Shawn Springs in Arizona. Wouldn't it make more sense to train with the qb you are going to be working with?

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

You are right and the Redskins knew that (or should have) before the acquired him. I can remember Tim Ryan on NFL Radio bashing Lloyd even before the Redskins looked into acquiring him. He said he did an interview with Llyod about an upcoming opponent in preparation for Ryan's broadcasting gig. He asked Lloyd how he planned to attack the secondary, what he had seen on tape, etc. and B. Lloyd told him he didn't watch tape and that he would just smoke the guy a couple of times and the CB would be in his pocket.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I don't think much of Brandon Lloyd's character. He thinks way too highly of himself and consequently thinks he can get by on the talent he was given.

10 pounds or not, the guy's a bum because you can't count on him. Every now and then he'll show up to make a big play, but he's so inconsistent that he's sure to let you down when you really need him to come through.

This is a timing offense, and the fact that Lloyd didn't take the time to get with JC in the offseason to get the timing down speaks volumes to me. JC is going to favor Moss and ARE, as well as Cooley because of the rapport.

Do you have a source that says that he did not work out with JC in the off season and that the others did. I remember that Lloyd was in a QB competion with JC and that would not make much sense if JC was working out with other WR this year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Do you have a source that says that he did not work out with JC in the off season and that the others did. I remember that Lloyd was in a QB competion with JC and that would not make much sense if JC was working out with other WR this year.

I'll have to dig it up; I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in JLC's blog.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'll have to dig it up; I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in JLC's blog.

Please do because I do not remember any thing saying that him and Lloyd did not work out any the even perticipated in a QB/WR competition together thi off season.

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Please do because I do not remember any thing saying that him and Lloyd did not work out any the even perticipated in a QB/WR competition together thi off season.

I believe you're right, firstdown. I don't think Campbell was able to work out with any of the receivers during the off-season, not just Lloyd. I'm npt including OTA's, of course.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I agree. B Lloyd seems to think that it is all about him. He really should have sat down with JC this off-season to get timing down. He is right now the 4th option in the mind of JC and that will remain that way until he shows otherwise.

(we could've had Darrell Jackson for a 4th rounder, but we gave 2 picks to San Fran for Lloyd)

[GTripp0012]

James Thrash for president. Or No. 2 receiver.

Look, I want ARE on the field as much as possible. If that makes him a "No. 2 receiver", thats fine by me. But in a 3rd down situation, the first read should be Cooley, the second should be Moss, and the third should be Thrash, more often than not.

[Krills]

I think you guys need to cut him some slack. He pissed me off last season too, but this is a new year. The reason that he is #3 on the depth chart right now is because that's how the season ended last year. So far this year, he has said all the right things. Lets hope things work out because we certainly need them too. I love James Thrash, but he is not a go to receiver anymore.

[jsarno]

We don't seem to have a #2 or #3 position, so I don't think that really matters.
ARE is a lesser talented Moss.
We need Lloyd to step up.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by jsarno

We don't seem to have a #2 or #3 position, so I don't think that really matters.
ARE is a lesser talented Moss.
We need Lloyd to step up.

The only reason that ARE is ahead is because that's the way they finished last season. Anybody eho has watched both the Al Saunders and Joe Gibbs press confrences knows that.

[freddyg12]

Loyd may be the wild card for the whole offense. If he steps up, we're dangerous. If not, the good defenses will be able to match up.

Like a lot of us, I think it was a terrible trade to get him & he seems to be more of a problem than he's worth, but I'm hoping he can at least be a deep ball specialist. I don't think he'll ever be a tough move the chains reciever, but he's comfortable going deep & going up for the ball.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Loyd may be the wild card for the whole offense. If he steps up, we're dangerous. If not, the good defenses will be able to match up.

Like a lot of us, I think it was a terrible trade to get him & he seems to be more of a problem than he's worth, but I'm hoping he can at least be a deep ball specialist. I don't think he'll ever be a tough move the chains reciever, but he's comfortable going deep & going up for the ball.

I think he bulked up this off-season with the intent of being the "over the middle" guy