JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out

12thMan · 08-30-2007, 04:54 PM

Anyone have any idea how much money he's asking for? If Culppeper comes out and rips it up, do you guys think Russell then becomes trade bait?

He'd better pretty darn good for all the money he's asking for....whatever that is?

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SmootSmack · 08-30-2007, 05:03 PM

I don't remember exactly but I think it was something like $65-70 million with a $30 million signing bonus. I think the Raiders stopped at $60 million. I don't remember the years or if those are the exact numbers but somewhere in that ballpark sounds about right.

BDBohnzie · 08-30-2007, 05:33 PM

Russell could be the 2nd coming of Montana, but no way in hell is he worth 30 mil up front...or 60 million overall as a goddamn rookie. Whatever he's smoking, I want some...

jsarno · 08-30-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Russell could be the 2nd coming of Montana, but no way in hell is he worth 30 mil up front...or 60 million overall as a goddamn rookie. Whatever he's smoking, I want some...

LOL, what made you say Montana? Russell has no attributes that even remotely resemble Montana.

mooby · 08-30-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL, what made you say Montana? Russell has no attributes that even remotely resemble Montana.

I think he was just using Montana as an example of a great quarterback that Russell wants to be like someday. Either way it's ridiculous how much money Russell wants, I'm rooting for Al and the Raiders on this one. Put a final offer on the table and if he doesn't take it then whatever.

jsarno · 08-30-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I think he was just using Montana as an example of a great quarterback that Russell wants to be like someday. Either way it's ridiculous how much money Russell wants, I'm rooting for Al and the Raiders on this one. Put a final offer on the table and if he doesn't take it then whatever.

So what happens if they can't come to terms?
We've never seen this before, so does this mean he becomes a FA? Does anyone know?

GTripp0012 · 08-30-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I think he was just using Montana as an example of a great quarterback that Russell wants to be like someday. Either way it's ridiculous how much money Russell wants, I'm rooting for Al and the Raiders on this one. Put a final offer on the table and if he doesn't take it then whatever.

Honestly, if Russell doesn't sign and goes back into the draft, Russell loses roughly 55 million, and the Raiders pick up a bunch of compensatory draft picks.

If I'm Al Davis, I threaten to pull the offer now to get him to sign. (Course if I was Al Davis, I wouldn't have drafted him in the first place).

saden1 · 08-31-2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Honestly, if Russell doesn't sign and goes back into the draft, Russell loses roughly 55 million, and the Raiders pick up a bunch of compensatory draft picks.

If I'm Al Davis, I threaten to pull the offer now to get him to sign. (Course if I was Al Davis, I wouldn't have drafted him in the first place).

What kind of compensatory picks? Do you at least get a late 1'st round pick? We're talking about #1 overall so I'm sure 3'rd rounders won't do.

jsarno · 08-31-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Honestly, if Russell doesn't sign and goes back into the draft, Russell loses roughly 55 million, and the Raiders pick up a bunch of compensatory draft picks.

If I'm Al Davis, I threaten to pull the offer now to get him to sign. (Course if I was Al Davis, I wouldn't have drafted him in the first place).

That just sucks for the raiders.

Daseal · 08-30-2007, 05:49 PM

I thought the contract was stuck on a clause saying that the team can recoup X amount if he does anything of the field.

mlmpetert · 08-30-2007, 05:58 PM

John Clayton reported last night that the differences were really just in guaranteed money, and he thinks at best there might be a deal sometime in September.

I think dont understand where a player gets off thinking they should get huge amounts of guaranteed money. Maybe there should be a clause for a decent lump sum if you get seriously injured, but what if you're a bust

saden1 · 08-30-2007, 05:59 PM

I hope to god Al Davis is brave enough to not pay the kind of money the Russell camp is asking for. I'm all for making as much money as you can but these contracts are really getting insane, especially for people who've never played a down in the pros.

Yes, I'm cheering for Al.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 08-30-2007, 06:41 PM

Now Russell is being stupid. And the Raiders are stupid too. One of the great things about having the number 1 pick is being able to negoiate with players prior to the pick. they didnt and now they fucked up by not doing that.

44Dive · 08-30-2007, 06:50 PM

I never thought in a million years I'd be rooting for Dante Culpepper to be the second coming of Dan Marino.

Beemnseven · 08-30-2007, 08:09 PM

It's unlikely that he would have had much playing time anyway, but this is absurd.

If I'm a Raider fan, I boo his ass out of the stadium when he finally takes the field. If Culpepper pans out, Al looks like a genius.

08-30-2007, 05:03 PM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out I don't remember exactly but I think it was something like $65-70 million with a $30 million signing bonus. I think the Raiders stopped at $60 million. I don't remember the years or if those are the exact numbers but somewhere in that ballpark sounds about right. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-30-2007, 05:33 PM	#3
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out Russell could be the 2nd coming of Montana, but no way in hell is he worth 30 mil up front...or 60 million overall as a goddamn rookie. Whatever he's smoking, I want some... __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

08-30-2007, 05:49 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out I thought the contract was stuck on a clause saying that the team can recoup X amount if he does anything of the field. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

08-30-2007, 05:58 PM	#11
mlmpetert Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Richmond Posts: 3,261	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out John Clayton reported last night that the differences were really just in guaranteed money, and he thinks at best there might be a deal sometime in September. I think dont understand where a player gets off thinking they should get huge amounts of guaranteed money. Maybe there should be a clause for a decent lump sum if you get seriously injured, but what if you're a bust

08-30-2007, 05:59 PM	#12
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out I hope to god Al Davis is brave enough to not pay the kind of money the Russell camp is asking for. I'm all for making as much money as you can but these contracts are really getting insane, especially for people who've never played a down in the pros. Yes, I'm cheering for Al. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

08-30-2007, 04:54 PM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out Anyone have any idea how much money he's asking for? If Culppeper comes out and rips it up, do you guys think Russell then becomes trade bait? He'd better pretty darn good for all the money he's asking for....whatever that is? Around the League: Russell makes history

08-30-2007, 06:41 PM	#13
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 36 Posts: 14,185	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out Now Russell is being stupid. And the Raiders are stupid too. One of the great things about having the number 1 pick is being able to negoiate with players prior to the pick. they didnt and now they fucked up by not doing that. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

08-30-2007, 06:50 PM	#14
44Dive Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out I never thought in a million years I'd be rooting for Dante Culpepper to be the second coming of Dan Marino.

08-30-2007, 08:09 PM	#15
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: JaMarcus Russell Still Holding Out It's unlikely that he would have had much playing time anyway, but this is absurd. If I'm a Raider fan, I boo his ass out of the stadium when he finally takes the field. If Culpepper pans out, Al looks like a genius.

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