Forget the Game, what about the F...ing INJURIES?!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Honestly, I'm over the game. They won. They're obviously a better team.

Does the running the score up thing piss me off? Sure it does.

But seriously, are we the most cursed team ever when it comes to injuries? We make a seriously play at the playoffs this year and then we lose Jansen. Oops, that's OK, Wade can fill in.

Oh damn, we just lost Thomas. Well, this is starting to suck, but we're going to be OK.

Hamstrings, hamstrings, hamstrings. Groins, groins, groins.

But we're playing OK anyway, we're 4-2, going into New England. Rogers goes down. McIntosh is constantly going out with pinched nerves. Not to wish injury on ANYONE, and not saying that I would enjoy that, but for once can we see fucking Brady go down with a strained shoulder? I mean our guys are laying wood on people and they're the ones getting hurt.

It seems like this is a constant cycle. Sure, injuries are part of the game, but they seem to be so freaking crucial when it comes to the Skins. Other teams might lose a DT or something. We lose the whole right side of our line, our starting CB, and MANY players are nicked up.

Just so sick of EVERY TIME we play a game seeing another starter go down with some kind of injury.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Yeah, the injuries are really making me sick. Prior to the season I thought that the main thing that would keep us out of the playoffs would be injuries.
I was worried that if people like Moss, Portis, Campbell, or Taylor got injured we'd be in a lot of trouble. While that hasn't really been the case, although there have been problems with them, the role players getting hurt are by far our biggest problem.

Midway through the 3rd yesterday my buddy and I were both saying that we wanted Campbell out because the right side of our line was basically useless. On that last forced fumble Wade was just standing there as Vrabel when right around him and it was clear that he was just in over his head.

[MTK]

The "don't complain about the injuries" police are lurking.

[mheisig]

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if we have had a single game this season where a starter hasn't gone out with an injury?

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if we have had a single game this season where a starter hasn't gone out with an injury?

Probably not, and that's not the frustrating thing. It's what Matty said. It's the fact that right when we start getting healthy, we lose another key player.

Say Thomas plays against the Seahawks a couple years ago, we're playing in the Super Bowl if he does...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Say Thomas plays against the Seahawks a couple years ago, we're playing in the Super Bowl if he does...

I wouldn't say that.

The Seahawks were better than us that year and they beat us pretty good in their house. One player probably would not have closed that gap.

[mheisig]

I'll answer my own question. Below is a list of players who went out of a game with an injury, taken from NFL.com. They don't seem to list every injury during the game, just "notables."

Week 1: Vernon Fox (sprained groin)
Week 2: Randy Thomas (torn triceps)
Week 3: Santana Moss (strained groin)
Week 4: bye
Week 5: Marcus Washington (hamstring)
Week 6: Todd Wade (groin), Casey Rabach (groin), Stephon Heyer ()
Week 7: Rock Cartwright (quadriceps)
Week 8: Carlos Rogers (unknown)

Here's a list of every Redskin player that has appeared on the injury list at one time or another during the first 8 games, the injury and the number of appearances on the list.

Cody Boyd (shoulder) x 2
Khary Campbell (hamstring)
Clinton Portis (knee) x 2
Chris Samuels (knee)
Todd Wade (shoulder) (groin) x 2
Marcus Washington (elbow) (hamstring) x 4
Vernon Fox (groin) x 2
Phillip Daniels (foot) x 3
Pierson Prioleau (hamstring)
Fred Smoot (hamstring) (illness) x 5
Todd Yoder (ankle)
Santana Moss (groin) (hamstring) x 4
Randy Thomas (triceps) x 5
Brandon Lloyd (shin)
Sean Taylor (knee)
Mike Sellers (heel) x 2
Antwaan Randle El (hamstring)
Stephon Heyer (hamstring) x 2
Shawn Springs (family)
Casey Rabach (groin) x 2
Pete Kendall (hamstring)
Rock Cartwright (quadricep)
Carlos Rogers (knee)

I'm not entirely sure how this compares to other teams in the league. Obviously just getting listed on the injury list doesn't mean the player didn't play, just that at some point they were banged up enough to get listed.

For reference, I noticed that the Rams have, on several occasions, listed 13 players on their injured list, and the Colts seem to have a pretty large running list as well.

Does anyone find the number of hamstring (7) and groin (4) injuries to be unusually high? I guess I kind of expect knee injuries, shoulder injuries, etc. and the occasional flu or family death, but the hamstrings and groin problems are rampant.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Oh, I'm not saying this is an excuse for the way this team is playing (even though I'm sure it contributes). I'm just saying, CAN WE GET A FREAKING BREAK ON THE INJURY FRONT FOR JUST ONE DAMN SEASON?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Oh, I'm not saying this is an excuse for the way this team is playing (even though I'm sure it contributes). I'm just saying, CAN WE GET A FREAKING BREAK ON THE INJURY FRONT FOR JUST ONE DAMN SEASON?

We were basically 100% all of 2005. We can't complain too much about injuries. Seems like basically every team in the league has been rocked by injuries this year.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

TOTALLY healthy, we still wouldn't have won yesterday.

But I bet we WOULD be 6-1 had we been healthy all year and that would have taken a lot of the sting out of this game.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

TOTALLY healthy, we still wouldn't have won yesterday.

But I bet we WOULD be 6-1 had we been healthy all year and that would have taken a lot of the sting out of this game.

Yeah I agree, healthy or not we still get whooped yesterday.

Just when it seems that we're healing up, we get bit more by the injury bug. I don't get it either, seems that we just can't catch a break with injuries, no pun intended.

[SmootSmack]

Not having Smoot AND Rogers for just about the entire game against New England was, to me, one of the biggest-if not the biggest reason we lost. And then throw in losing Rocky midway through the game.

Those injuries were huge, and hopefully the Rogers'one isn't as serious as feared.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not having Smoot AND Rogers for just about the entire game against New England was, to me, one of the biggest-if not the biggest reason we lost. And then throw in losing Rocky midway through the game.

Those injuries were huge, and hopefully the Rogers' one isn't as serious as feared.

The defense did pretty well all things considered, I thought.

Look, we stuck to what we do best, which is play soft pass coverage, and come up and rock ya after the catch. We didn't do this poorly, and Brady actually struggled in third down situations yesterday. I mean, you saw him taking off and running on a few occasions and that's pretty much his last option.

The DL was pretty much non existent, save a great play from Daniels. I guess that's what I expected from these guys coming it. Montgomery looked human, Griffin looked old, and Andre Carter looked like....Andre Carter.

I mean we pretty much had to rely on Brady making a mistake, and he didn't so give him credit.

One thing that I thought the front seven failed at was diagnosing certain one read plays. Like those one lineman screens. The action of the running back makes the play obvious, but we weren't diagnosing it.

Leigh Torrence didn't do all that bad playing in place of Rogers. It will be interesting to see how Smoot does in the starting role now, because this will probably be the most accurate measure of how much Carlos Rogers' improved this offseason is how much our pass D misses him.

David Macklin is awful though so I hope we can find a CB who can play the nickel role. Until then, Prioleau might have to fill it.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not having Smoot AND Rogers for just about the entire game against New England was, to me, one of the biggest-if not the biggest reason we lost. And then throw in losing Rocky midway through the game.

Those injuries were huge, and hopefully the Rogers'one isn't as serious as feared.

So you're saying that if Smoot and Rogers were in there we wouldn't have lost? I think they may have made a 1 or 2 TD difference in the game AT BEST, which still would have made it a blowout.

Redskins.com is saying Rogers MCL suffered a "significant" injury. I think we all know that means it's torn. And they said his ACL may be injured as well. To me that sounds like fancy language for a shredded knee.

This just sucks. Totally friggin sucks. Oh well, there's a reason we signed all those D backs in the offseason. Time for Torrence and Macklin to step up.

I feel so embarassed after that game. Hopefully our team takes this VERY personally, and goes out and plays with a serious chip on their shoulder. I hope we pound the Jets. If they can't score a TD against Buffalo....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

So you're saying that if Smoot and Rogers were in there we wouldn't have lost? I think they may have made a 1 or 2 TD difference in the game AT BEST, which still would have made it a blowout.

Redskins.com is saying Rogers MCL suffered a "significant" injury. I think we all know that means it's torn. And they said his ACL may be injured as well. To me that sounds like fancy language for a shredded knee.

This just sucks. Totally friggin sucks. Oh well, there's a reason we signed all those D backs in the offseason. Time for Torrence and Macklin to step up.

I feel so embarassed after that game. Hopefully our team takes this VERY personally, and goes out and plays with a serious chip on their shoulder. I hope we pound the Jets. If they can't score a TD against Buffalo....

I think if they were both in the game, and Campbell didn't have those two costly fumbles yes we could have won.