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Old 11-15-2007, 04:20 PM   #1
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Derrick Dockery:

I was a big fan of Dockery while he was here. Progressed every year, seemed like a good solid guy, etc. I wished we could have kept him, but no way we could have paid what Buffalo did for him, unfortunately.

Anyhow, I just want to know how he's doing in Buffalo, I havent seen any of their games and I'm not sure where to go to see good stats for Olinemen =/
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:22 PM   #2
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Re: Derrick Dockery:

He is doing damn good in Buffalo and his opening pretty big holes for Lynch
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:46 PM   #3
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Re: Derrick Dockery:

ive never been a big fan. he's immobile and made alot of mental mistakes. he was very streaky, and in one instant would look like the most powerful player in football, and the very next he would lose leverage on a guy half his size, get beat for a sack to a dt, and lose confidence... then were the penalties...

wasn't too sad to see him leave personally, but I did see where the bills qbs have been sacked among the most in the league, and their o line is among the most penalized (didn't look it up, but a friend is a bills fan and is constantly bitching about the o line... not dock in particular, but the oline in general.)
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:10 PM   #4
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Re: Derrick Dockery:

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2007

Dockery, as much as we can deduce from these numbers (i.e. not much) is doing unspectacular. There is no gaping hole on the Bills line, and it's strongest hole in run blocking is running inside the right tackle-guard hole. Can't really credit Dockery for that.

He's playing next to one of the most respected LTs in the game, so I was actually expecting more from their OL numbers, but it's not really Dockery's fault persay. It's someone's fault on the Bills though, be it Marshawn Lynch or whoever.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:03 PM   #5
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FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2007

Dockery, as much as we can deduce from these numbers (i.e. not much) is doing unspectacular. There is no gaping hole on the Bills line, and it's strongest hole in run blocking is running inside the right tackle-guard hole. Can't really credit Dockery for that.

He's playing next to one of the most respected LTs in the game, so I was actually expecting more from their OL numbers, but it's not really Dockery's fault persay. It's someone's fault on the Bills though, be it Marshawn Lynch or whoever.
In the end, while we can't tell much from the numbers, it does seem to say one thing:

Not quite worth $49 million.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:20 PM   #6
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Re: Derrick Dockery:

We all would have liked to have kept him but not at that price. With the needs we have going into next season I don't see how anyone could really question the decision to let him go.
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:36 PM   #7
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In the end, while we can't tell much from the numbers, it does seem to say one thing:

Not quite worth $49 million.
It's a shame we didn't resign him going into the last season of his contract as we did with Cooley. I bet he could have been had for $30M with a $10M signing bonus.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:54 AM   #8
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Yeah. We spent $10 million guaranteed on Lloyd who caught 2 passes for 14 yds this season and will probably NEVER wear a Redskins uniform again!
I coulda done more!
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for that kind of cash, I'd rather have A. Rod
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:35 AM   #10
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Not worth the money, when does that count for anything with this team. Lets give the richest safety contract ever to Arch, oh and lets give another FA WR diva 30+ million w/ 10Mil up front and lets give another WR who averages 30 catches a year 30+million w/ 10+ upfront. But lets not sign one of our own draft picks who has been way better than average, built chemistry with the other 4 lineman, is young only getting better, and has been a rock at LG since drafting him.

Yeah, thats a great move!
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:43 AM   #11
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All I know is he's not living up to that monster contract that's for sure. Decent player, way, way, way overpaid.
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Not worth the money, when does that count for anything with this team. Lets give the richest safety contract ever to Arch, oh and lets give another FA WR diva 30+ million w/ 10Mil up front and lets give another WR who averages 30 catches a year 30+million w/ 10+ upfront. But lets not sign one of our own draft picks who has been way better than average, built chemistry with the other 4 lineman, is young only getting better, and has been a rock at LG since drafting him.

Yeah, thats a great move!
The signings of Betts, Sellers, and Cooley before they could hit free agency is a solid indication that the Skins finally understand the mistake they made by not locking up guys like Pierce and Dockery earlier. This strategy must be continued with Sean Taylor and Campbell. What seemed like a lot of money to re-sign Doc in Sept 2006 looked like a bargain in March 2007.
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All I know is he's not living up to that monster contract that's for sure. Decent player, way, way, way overpaid.
I understand the fact that the contract he signed was a bit high, no doubt. But they knew he was a free agent after last season, they should have locked him up as they did other players this past year. I just hated the fact they gave all this money out to outside guys and didn't even make a decent offer to lock him up. Our offensive line was one of if not the only bright spot of our team, i just would have thought they would want to keep that together.

Hopefully they wont let guys like Taylor and Campbell hit the FA or restricted FA market.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:40 AM   #14
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He is doing damn good in Buffalo and his opening pretty big holes for Lynch
Yeah, for $55 million, he better be.

If we resigned him for more than Buffalo, we'd all be whining about overpaying. For once, we let someone else overpay.
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I understand the fact that the contract he signed was a bit high, no doubt. But they knew he was a free agent after last season, they should have locked him up as they did other players this past year. I just hated the fact they gave all this money out to outside guys and didn't even make a decent offer to lock him up. Our offensive line was one of if not the only bright spot of our team, i just would have thought they would want to keep that together.

Hopefully they wont let guys like Taylor and Campbell hit the FA or restricted FA market.
A bit high?

They did try to sign him before he hit the market, he choose to test the free agent waters and it definitely worked out for him. I really don't fault him or the Skins. Dockery got his money, and the Skins wisely choose to not match that insane contract.
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