Vinny Cerrato

12thMan · 04-28-2008, 11:04 AM

I have to admit I was pretty damn impressed with the way Vinny Cerrato commanded the draft yesterday. He was comfortable with the national media and you can see what they're trying to build here.

I've never been a Cerrato basher, because I never really understood what his actual role was until recently. It seems like most of the attention has always been on who didn't work out for the Redskins, instead of who did. Guys like Cooley, Sean Taylor (R.I.P.) and a host of others have played admirably for this franchise. The problem was, at least in my mind, you could never pin failure or success on one person within the organization. So we as fans, rightfully or wrongfully, ran the flag up the pole to Snyder and said the buck stops here. Often times the media was the ring leader, and emotional fans would buy into that narrative hook, line, and sinker.

Perhaps now it's more clear why Cerrato and Gregg Williams couldn't co-exist together on personnel matters. Maybe Williams release wasn't personal afterall, I guess it was "personnel." I'm sure Williams would have flipped his lid when we passed over Calais Campbell from Miami, and can you blame him? The cold, hard truth is this is just one draft and there will be another Long, Campbell, or Vernon Gholston next year. And if we really mean business, then we'll be in position to pick that guy.

I'm not ready to anoint Cerrato the next Ron Wolf or Bobby Beatheard, but after looking at everything unfold yesterday I feel pretty comfortable that this guy knows what he's doing and has a sense of vision. You can't judge everything on one draft alone, but whether you agree with all the picks or not, it's hard to argue that the Redskins made bone headed decisions or screwed this one up. Maybe there were just too many Chefs in the kitchen afterall.

Soup's Uncle · 04-28-2008, 11:09 AM

Yeah, overall I liked how he handled it. Now if next year, he uses 3 of the first picks on WR's, then I'll be pissed.

redskinmann · 04-28-2008, 11:20 AM

Amazing the number of people who trashed the redskins draft, and now jump on the bandwagon now that all the experts( Kiper, Prisco) have now said that the redskins draft was a very good one. I liked it from the beginning. The defense won't be world beaters, but at least the offense could be something that won't put the fans too sleep every weekend now.

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinmann

Amazing the number of people who trashed the redskins draft, and now jump on the bandwagon now that all the experts( Kiper, Prisco) have now said that the redskins draft was a very good one. I liked it from the beginning. The defense won't be world beaters, but at least the offense could be something that won't put the fans too sleep every weekend now.

A good portion of the Warpath liked the draft. Including all of those who have responded in this thread up until this post.

MTK · 04-28-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinmann

Amazing the number of people who trashed the redskins draft, and now jump on the bandwagon now that all the experts( Kiper, Prisco) have now said that the redskins draft was a very good one. I liked it from the beginning. The defense won't be world beaters, but at least the offense could be something that won't put the fans too sleep every weekend now.

What's more amazing to me is despite most draft experts saying the Redskins had a good draft, there are still people out there bashing away at everything the team does.

GTripp0012 · 04-28-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What's more amazing to me is despite most draft experts saying the Redskins had a good draft, there are still people out there bashing away at everything the team does.

I dunno man, most of the people who bash the team on everything they do seem pretty happy with the draft.

MTK · 04-28-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I dunno man, most of the people who bash the team on everything they do seem pretty happy with the draft.

A couple of people gave the Redskins an 'F' here in our draft grade poll, granted those were only a select few, but still a sign that the team can seemingly do no right for some. And what the hell is up JLC's ass?

squrrelco3 · 04-28-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What's more amazing to me is despite most draft experts saying the Redskins had a good draft, there are still people out there bashing away at everything the team does.

Oh God the draft was horrible, we suck, Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly will be the next Desmond Howard and Michael Westbrook, Fred Davis can't hold David LaFleur's jockstrap.....

(Just thought I would get that out of the way...

)

irish · 04-28-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What's more amazing to me is despite most draft experts saying the Redskins had a good draft, there are still people out there bashing away at everything the team does.

I am not amazed at all that people on this site now love the experts and think they are experts because they gave the Skins high marks (thereby agreeing with what they think as fans). Had the experts given the Skins low marks these same people would have called the experts idiots with an anti-Redskins bias. Its the same old stuff, if they agree with me they are smart and if they dont they are idiots.

12thMan · 04-28-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Its the same old stuff, if they agree with me they are smart and if they dont they are idiots.

Isn't that the way fans are supposed to act?

HOGTIMUS PRIME · 04-28-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I am not amazed at all that people on this site now love the experts and think they are experts because they gave the Skins high marks (thereby agreeing with what they think as fans). Had the experts given the Skins low marks these same people would have called the experts idiots with an anti-Redskins bias. Its the same old stuff, if they agree with me they are smart and if they dont they are idiots.

Hitting the nail on the head! Well done!:thumb:

MTK · 04-28-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I am not amazed at all that people on this site now love the experts and think they are experts because they gave the Skins high marks (thereby agreeing with what they think as fans). Had the experts given the Skins low marks these same people would have called the experts idiots with an anti-Redskins bias. Its the same old stuff, if they agree with me they are smart and if they dont they are idiots.

I liked our draft before any grades came out.

The problem with your take is the experts DID like our draft.

I don't think anyone formed their opinions solely based on what the experts said. It was pretty hard to hate what the Skins did overall IMO.

HOGTIMUS PRIME · 04-28-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Soup's Uncle

Yeah, overall I liked how he handled it. Now if next year, he uses 3 of the first picks on WR's, then I'll be pissed.

Well lets hope WR's are not tops on VC'c board.

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 11:11 AM

And dare I say, he was actually likeable in his interview with Trey Wingo yesterday afternoon.

Kiper has a lot of respect for Vinny's ability as a talent evaluator.

MTK · 04-28-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

And dare I say, he was actually likeable in his interview with Trey Wingo yesterday afternoon.

Kiper has a lot of respect for Vinny's ability as a talent evaluator.

Yeah I heard Kiper remark a couple of times this weekend that he thinks Vinny's strength is evaluating talent.

I like that we finally have someone in place that we know is calling the shots and can be accountable for what we do personnel-wise.

04-28-2008, 11:04 AM	#1
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Vinny Cerrato I have to admit I was pretty damn impressed with the way Vinny Cerrato commanded the draft yesterday. He was comfortable with the national media and you can see what they're trying to build here. I've never been a Cerrato basher, because I never really understood what his actual role was until recently. It seems like most of the attention has always been on who didn't work out for the Redskins, instead of who did. Guys like Cooley, Sean Taylor (R.I.P.) and a host of others have played admirably for this franchise. The problem was, at least in my mind, you could never pin failure or success on one person within the organization. So we as fans, rightfully or wrongfully, ran the flag up the pole to Snyder and said the buck stops here. Often times the media was the ring leader, and emotional fans would buy into that narrative hook, line, and sinker. Perhaps now it's more clear why Cerrato and Gregg Williams couldn't co-exist together on personnel matters. Maybe Williams release wasn't personal afterall, I guess it was "personnel." I'm sure Williams would have flipped his lid when we passed over Calais Campbell from Miami, and can you blame him? The cold, hard truth is this is just one draft and there will be another Long, Campbell, or Vernon Gholston next year. And if we really mean business, then we'll be in position to pick that guy. I'm not ready to anoint Cerrato the next Ron Wolf or Bobby Beatheard, but after looking at everything unfold yesterday I feel pretty comfortable that this guy knows what he's doing and has a sense of vision. You can't judge everything on one draft alone, but whether you agree with all the picks or not, it's hard to argue that the Redskins made bone headed decisions or screwed this one up. Maybe there were just too many Chefs in the kitchen afterall.

04-28-2008, 11:09 AM	#2
Soup's Uncle Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 354	Re: Vinny Cerrato Yeah, overall I liked how he handled it. Now if next year, he uses 3 of the first picks on WR's, then I'll be pissed.

04-28-2008, 11:20 AM	#3
redskinmann Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1	Re: Vinny Cerrato Amazing the number of people who trashed the redskins draft, and now jump on the bandwagon now that all the experts( Kiper, Prisco) have now said that the redskins draft was a very good one. I liked it from the beginning. The defense won't be world beaters, but at least the offense could be something that won't put the fans too sleep every weekend now.

04-28-2008, 11:11 AM	#14
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Vinny Cerrato And dare I say, he was actually likeable in his interview with Trey Wingo yesterday afternoon. Kiper has a lot of respect for Vinny's ability as a talent evaluator. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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