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Old 09-23-2008, 08:57 AM   #1
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Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?

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Okay, we've gone way too long without talking about the QB in detail.
Loved the two times he tucked the ball and ran, right up the gut, for big first downs. Those plays were huge and the kid has plenty of gumption running in those high traffic areas. His poise in finding secondary receivers was excellent. He threw a few away when he had to. He shook off a rough patch in the middle of the game - JC started off 8-for-8, hit a rut, and then, most importantly, he finished strong again.

How about passer ratings over 100 in consecutive games? How about hitting seven different receivers for the second week in a row? How about no fumbles or turnovers all season, through 93 attempts? How about finishing Week 2 with eight straight completions and opening this game with eight more? How about four TDs - zero INTs, and a 100.1 passer rating, with 66 percent completions?

How about 4-for-5 for 69 yards and a TD with the game on the line in the fourth quarter (including three passes of 17 yards or more)? How about JC in the fourth quarter this season: 23 for 32, (72 percent!) for 331 yards and two TDs - a 125.9 passer rating? And all of these have been in close-and-late situations (with the score margin of seven points or less). Not too shabby, eh? That explains the Skins' outscoring teams 21-0 in the fourth quarter so far.
Not bad huh?
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:04 AM   #2
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Re: Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?

JC is making all the right moves.
No turnovers
Extending drives
Big time 3rd down conversions
Making it happen in the clutch
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In the last two games, he's played like Collins did during the stretch run last year, which was darn impressive. You could argue Campbell has been even more clutch than Collins, having his best moments in the 4th quarter with the game on the line.

Gotta keep it up to really achieve that next level status. But he's beginning to show why he deserves to be considered a franchise QB.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:10 AM   #4
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Right now he is not taking chances. He is finding the open guy and taking it. Very rarely is he risking the ball where he shouldn't. One of these weeks someone is going to commit to stopping our passing game and that'll be a real test to see how he handles that and how much we can bang the ball when they do that.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:25 AM   #5
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Well While I have not thrown JC under the bus I have had that question if he could be our QB of the future. He has done allot in the last two games to show that he can lead this team when we need it most in the 4th qtr. Last year thats when he lost the game with a badly timed int but this year he has been flawless in the 4th. For that matter the team as a whole has played great in the 4th and that what winning teams do. The up comming game against D will tell us allot about JC growth as a QB. Even if we do not win the game if he could just show the poise he has over the past two games I'd be very happy.
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Old 09-23-2008, 09:36 AM   #6
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So far so good. 13 more games to go.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:02 AM   #7
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Re: Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?

This week will be a huge test. I have 3 concerns.

1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.

2) 3rd downs. We still have a very low 3rd down efficiency avg. I wish I could see our 3rd down % when we have a 0yd gain on 1st. We are showing improvement but we have to.

3) Caliber of D we've faced vs. what we have to face in our division. Saints and cards D doesn't really scare anyone except the niners and rams. (The rams should be scared of their practice squad).



Ill say I've been impressed and gush often about our young qb. He's got a hell of an arm and serious moxie. I really like him and hope he has a long wonderful career in DC, colt be damned. I just hope he continues to improve.

By the way, anyone else notice his stance under center looks much more natural this year, as opposed to last when it looked like he was taking a dump down there?
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This week will be a huge test. I have 3 concerns.

1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.

2) 3rd downs. We still have a very low 3rd down efficiency avg. I wish I could see our 3rd down % when we have a 0yd gain on 1st. We are showing improvement but we have to.

3) Caliber of D we've faced vs. what we have to face in our division. Saints and cards D doesn't really scare anyone except the niners and rams. (The rams should be scared of their practice squad).



Ill say I've been impressed and gush often about our young qb. He's got a hell of an arm and serious moxie. I really like him and hope he has a long wonderful career in DC, colt be damned. I just hope he continues to improve.

By the way, anyone else notice his stance under center looks much more natural this year, as opposed to last when it looked like he was taking a dump down there?
hahaha...

yeah he certainly appears more comfortable, and his footwork has gotten a lot quicker (fast drop back)
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1) Staring down receivers. His head doesn't seem to move from one side of the field to the other. From what I see he throws pretty much where he starts looking most of the time.
The fact that Campbell stares down receivers is a bit overstated. He was doing it a bit in preseason, but I have a feeling that had a lot to do with his comfort level in the new offense. He seems to be moving through his progressions a lot more quickly now, which is reinforced by the fact that he's hit 7+ receivers in the last two games.

I also noticed at least a few plays last week where he used the stigma of "staring down receivers" to his advantage. A couple of times, Campbell did lock on to a receiver, and give a vicious pump fake to shift the DB's. Then he turned and delivered the ball to the other side of the field. It was impressive, since I don't recall seeing him use the pump fake so effectively.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:49 AM   #10
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Re: Jason Campbell: not too shabby, eh?

I know the stats look great in all but it really doesn't seem like the coaches are asking him to do too much. The majority of the passes this week ( and against NO except for the last two drives) are short and low risk. We certainly are not as aggressive as Dallas or Philly. I'd just like to see us go down field more and try to score a little more quickly. I don't see us having 12 play drives against Dallas and Philly. I'd be willing to bet that Dallas is going to be sitting on all the short stuff this week. But JC has done a good job managing the games the last two weeks.
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I know the stats look great in all but it really doesn't seem like the coaches are asking him to do too much. The majority of the passes this week ( and against NO except for the last two drives) are short and low risk. We certainly are not as aggressive as Dallas or Philly. I'd just like to see us go down field more and try to score a little more quickly. I don't see us having 12 play drives against Dallas and Philly. I'd be willing to bet that Dallas is going to be sitting on all the short stuff this week. But JC has done a good job managing the games the last two weeks.
That's the WCO defined.
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That's the WCO defined.
Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.
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Defined to a point. At some point JC is going to have to start taking more changes downfield, especially against the top defenses.
I agree. While the WCO is predicated on the short passing game, isn't the idea that you setup the deep passes with short passes? Either way, long sustained drives will win us most games, but sometimes you've gotta be able to let it rip, and not just against a depleted secondary's rookie back up cb.
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Not sure I'm buying the staring down the receivers thing as much anymore. When you think about it, this is the kind of offense where the QB needs to get the ball out quickly, so sometimes it's going to appear that he's not going through all of his reads when in reality he's just throwing to his 1st or 2nd option who just happens to be open. He's done a good job at checking down, which is an indication that he is going through his reads when he has to.

3rd down conversions is an issue, but against the Cards we were 5 of 11 which is an improvement over the first 2 weeks.
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Not sure I'm buying the staring down the receivers thing as much anymore. When you think about it, this is the kind of offense where the QB needs to get the ball out quickly, so sometimes it's going to appear that he's not going through all of his reads when in reality he's just throwing to his 1st or 2nd option who just happens to be open. He's done a good job at checking down, which is an indication that he is going through his reads when he has to.

3rd down conversions is an issue, but against the Cards we were 5 of 11 which is an improvement over the first 2 weeks.
Also, if he were truly staring down his receivers, he would have thrown a few picks by now. It's not like safeties in this league don't pick up on that.
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