Best 5 Moves of Dan Snyder Era

[Paintrain]

The past month has been a tumultuous time for the Redskins faithful with the will he/won't he on the Cutler trade, the rumored infatuation with Mark Sanchez and the potential cost of that move and really just a general sense of uneasiness among us all. It was touched on in another thread that the Sanchez trade/draft could be one of the 5 worst moves in Snyder's ownership reign so it seemed like it could spawn 2 threads of their own- so in this one what are your best 5 moves of the Dan Snyder era?

Best 5 (in no particular order)
1. Trading for Clinton Portis. Without revisiting the issue too much, let's just be clear in agreeing that Champ Bailey wasn't coming back. The move for Portis did a few things. It gave us a chance, every time he stepped onto the field, to win the game. He's consistently been a top 10 back each year he's been a Redskin. For better or worse, he's been the face of the franchise and what successes we've had in his 5 years, he's always been at the forefront of.

2. Firing Norv Turner. The timing of it was awful and he cut Norv's legs out from under him the previous offseason, but the writing was clearly on the wall for most of the 90's that Norv was simply over his head as our head coach. His subsequent career has reinforced what we already figured that he is a great offensive coordinator but not a good HC. He's in a great situation now with a HOF RB, great QB, great TE and a solid organization but still has come up short. While his successors have been less than stellar, it's hard to imagine Norv would have found much sustained success with us.

3. Trading for the #3 pick in the '99 draft to pick Chris Samuels. We can go into the wayback machine and look at what could have happened if we had kept the 3 #1 picks we had and who was available and who we could have gotten, but realistically we don't know who we would have drafted or how they would have turned out in our system(s). Samuels has been the rock of our OL and will go down as a Redskins great when his time is up.

4. Hiring Joe Gibbs. This is a mixed bag for me. Gibbs brought back respectability to the franchise after the Spurrier era. He took us to the playoffs twice and brought in some solid young talent with Cooley, Portis, Moss, Landry, S. Taylor and Rogers. His 4 years restored the faith that many of us had lost in 'Redskins football.

5. Buying the Redskins. Look, despite the decade of mediocrity he has done anything he thought would make us a Super Bowl champ. The results have been absent, but you cannot discount the effort. To a man, if any of us had the means, we would probably buy our favorite team as well and do all that we could to field a winner.

What are yours?

[70Chip]

Bringing Gibbs back. Here endeth the list.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Bringing Gibbs back. Here endeth the list.

I completely agree...Thread done.

[SmootSmack]

-Gibbs
-His handling of the Sean Taylor situation (as well as taking care of Robert Royal's family during Katrina)

[The Goat]

Well you didn't specify whether they really had to be "football" so I've got a workaround. I don't believe Snyder has done anything on the field, if you will, worth a pat on the back. Trading up to get a bookend LT is just common sense once in a while. Gibbs II was a direct result of the chaos Snyder inflicted.

But I will give the tiny man credit for non-football moves. Everything surrounding Sean's murder...flying Collins up to his wife in delivery...I'm sure there are others. Snyder tries, he's just a lousy football man.

[skinsfaninok]

1. Trading For Portis
2. Trading For Portis LOL
3. Making the Skins a top 5 Franchise again.
4. Getting Rid of Spurrier
5. Bringing Back Gibbs.

[Masshole]

Drafting Shawn Taylor has to be in there somewhere, we could have gone with Kellen Winslow, instead we drafted a player who should have been the next LT in terms of defensive importance.

[Masshole]

*Sean

[SFREDSKIN]

1.Gibbs coming back
2.Drafting Sean Taylor
3.Firing Spurrier and Marty
4.Not hiring Fassel
5.Trading down the 13th pick of the 2009 draft and drafting Alex Mack (I hope so)

[Schneed10]

5) Trading up and taking Chris Samuels at #3 overall. He's anchored the left side for 10 years now, one of the most consistent Redskins to come along in years.

4) Drafting Sean Taylor. Emotional pick here, but Sean was my favorite player to watch in a Redskins uniform since Art Monk last suited up for us. Every time the ball went up over the middle of the field, I got this calm come over me like 'it's OK, Sean will get it.' And he often did. Not to mention the hits.

3) Trading up to draft Chris Cooley in the 3rd round.

2) Hiring Eric Shaffer. The guy really identifies opportunities for us to work the cap and keep turning the roster over amidst tons of horrendous roster moves over the years. If it weren't for Shaffer finding creative ways to make things work, we'd be in horrible shape.

1) Bringing back Joe Gibbs. The best move by leaps and bounds.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

The past month has been a tumultuous time for the Redskins faithful with the will he/won't he on the Cutler trade, the rumored infatuation with Mark Sanchez and the potential cost of that move and really just a general sense of uneasiness among us all. It was touched on in another thread that the Sanchez trade/draft could be one of the 5 worst moves in Snyder's ownership reign so it seemed like it could spawn 2 threads of their own- so in this one what are your best 5 moves of the Dan Snyder era?

Best 5 (in no particular order)
1. Trading for Clinton Portis. Without revisiting the issue too much, let's just be clear in agreeing that Champ Bailey wasn't coming back. The move for Portis did a few things. It gave us a chance, every time he stepped onto the field, to win the game. He's consistently been a top 10 back each year he's been a Redskin. For better or worse, he's been the face of the franchise and what successes we've had in his 5 years, he's always been at the forefront of.

2. Firing Norv Turner. The timing of it was awful and he cut Norv's legs out from under him the previous offseason, but the writing was clearly on the wall for most of the 90's that Norv was simply over his head as our head coach. His subsequent career has reinforced what we already figured that he is a great offensive coordinator but not a good HC. He's in a great situation now with a HOF RB, great QB, great TE and a solid organization but still has come up short. While his successors have been less than stellar, it's hard to imagine Norv would have found much sustained success with us.

3. Trading for the #3 pick in the '99 draft to pick Chris Samuels. We can go into the wayback machine and look at what could have happened if we had kept the 3 #1 picks we had and who was available and who we could have gotten, but realistically we don't know who we would have drafted or how they would have turned out in our system(s). Samuels has been the rock of our OL and will go down as a Redskins great when his time is up.

4. Hiring Joe Gibbs. This is a mixed bag for me. Gibbs brought back respectability to the franchise after the Spurrier era. He took us to the playoffs twice and brought in some solid young talent with Cooley, Portis, Moss, Landry, S. Taylor and Rogers. His 4 years restored the faith that many of us had lost in 'Redskins football.

5. Buying the Redskins. Look, despite the decade of mediocrity he has done anything he thought would make us a Super Bowl champ. The results have been absent, but you cannot discount the effort. To a man, if any of us had the means, we would probably buy our favorite team as well and do all that we could to field a winner.

What are yours?

I respectfully disagree with the buying the Skins part. The Skins should have stayed in the Jack Kent Cooke family.

1) Gibbs
2) Samuels
3) Cooley
4) London Fletcher
5) Sean Taylor - beginning and end with the team

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

1.Gibbs coming back
2.Drafting Sean Taylor
3.Firing Spurrier and Marty
4.Not hiring Fassel
5.Trading down the 13th pick of the 2009 draft and drafting Alex Mack (I hope so)

You include firing Marty as one of his best moves? Why?

What would have been wrong with Fassel?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

5. Buying the Redskins. Look, despite the decade of mediocrity he has done anything he thought would make us a Super Bowl champ. The results have been absent, but you cannot discount the effort. To a man, if any of us had the means, we would probably buy our favorite team as well and do all that we could to field a winner.

Well, I think we could all agree that Al Davis and Matt Millen put forth "effort," but that certainly isn't enough to warrant a pat on the back for them.

Don't forget also, trading for the #3 pick in the 2000 draft wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for Charley Casserly. He was able to accomplish one of the key things that the championship teams are doing now that Snyder and Cerrato haven't done and apparently don't care to do: stockpile draft picks.

And the Clinton Portis debate has been played out ever since he got here. But count me as one who says that we got the shit end of the stick with that one. Portis just hasn't been the game-changing, 'ultimate weapon' we thought he'd be. Champ would have stayed if Snyder signed the check. He kept Lavar instead.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Well, I think we could all agree that Al Davis and Matt Millen put forth "effort," but that certainly isn't enough to warrant a pat on the back for them.

Don't forget also, trading for the #3 pick in the 2000 draft wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for Charley Casserly. He was able to accomplish one of the key things that the championship teams are doing now that Snyder and Cerrato haven't done and apparently don't care to do: stockpile draft picks.

And the Clinton Portis debate has been played out ever since he got here. But count me as one who says that we got the shit end of the stick with that one. Portis just hasn't been the game-changing, 'ultimate weapon' we thought he'd be. Champ would have stayed if Snyder signed the check. He kept Lavar instead.

I agree, we're not giving out participation ribbons around here but I guess I was saying the intentions and effort are there (as opposed to some other owners in the league) but the results have been lacking. No doubt about Casserly and not discounting his work, but the trade was executed post Casserly if I recall correctly. Regarding Champ, at the time of the trade it was clear that Champ wasn't coming back-regardless of the money. Rather than lose him for nothing they got a RB who will be our all team leading rusher, TD scorer and still has 2-3 top level seasons left.

[redskinjim]

shit i cant think my brain is now frozen just like danny boys