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Old 11-21-2004, 08:14 PM   #1
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Ramsey

Just wondering what the overall thought of Ramsey was today?

21/34, 164yrds, 1 INT (right through Cartwrights hands).

I thought he played ok, not great. He did what was asked I think, I just wish we would have asked him to do more. Made some good throws, some bad throws... really hard to get a gauge on him because of the offense we were running, but just wondering what peopels thoughts were.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:14 PM   #2
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I thought he looked fine. I wish he would've been able to throw downfield more. He would've thrown a pick or two, but he also would have gotten us into the endzone.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:21 PM   #3
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I think he played well (62% ain't bad). He threw downfield a few times, but you could tell that the timing just wasn't there yet. Those wide receiver screens have always scared the buhjeebees out of me.

I think the Int was crap. Rock finally gets a chance and he botches it.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:25 PM   #4
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I thought he played relatively well for someone who just had his first week of real work with the first unit offense.

I don't think Gibbs trusts him just yet, and that's why we saw a pretty conservative attack. A game like today will help him build up that trust with Gibbs though, he played smart and played within the system. He was a bit rusty though, had a couple of deep overthrows. He did what he was asked for the most part, but he didn't make the big plays when he had the chance, rare as it was.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:29 PM   #5
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He played alright, he was more consistant than Brunnell that is for sure. I think the play calling for Ramsey was exactly what he needed...short passes to get his confidence up and the occasional shot downfield. At least we know Ramsey can get the ball downfield..but he's going to have to actually be accurate. Overall...what we needed was an increase in offense and we didn't have it today.....actually a decrease in points...
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:52 PM   #6
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gibbs needs to insert a shotgun formation into the offense, it would benefit ramsey. overall ramsey played pretty well.
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Old 11-21-2004, 09:54 PM   #7
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I thought he did a good job in a hostile environment and especially with Portis unable to get anything going today
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:21 PM   #8
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I thought he did fine. It was the playcalling and game plan that stunk. It sent a clear message that they don't have confidence in Ramsey.

I think Gibbs needs to completely rethink his offensive strategy. The season is over, so why not open up the game a lot? His QB has the arm to go long, why are we calling such a conservative and predictable game? It's not like we're in the hunt for the playoffs!

I just can't believe we have yet to score 20 offensive points. Something is very, very wrong with the offensive strategy!

The players and their execution aren't completely blameless either.

But when you insist on fielding only 2 wideouts and rarely go downfield, you will lose in today's NFL.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:33 PM   #9
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overall I thought ramsey played ok,not great by any means,but definetly better than brunell,but the throws he made downfield over 10 yds were terrible,they looked like brunell,which is probably why gibbs was hesitant to throw downfield more than he did,if ramsey could have just completed 1 of those maybe gibbs would have called for more of them.I think he only threw about 3 downfield but they werent close,still I wish we would have tried more of them
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:37 PM   #10
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gibbs needs to insert a shotgun formation into the offense, it would benefit ramsey. overall ramsey played pretty well.
He did that very briefly years ago...but his offenses for the most part have had no shot gun.
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Old 11-21-2004, 10:58 PM   #11
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was it just me or did ramsey look a little flustered in the pocket the last quarter of the game? he kept hunkering down as if someone was about to hit him but the pass rush wasn't really that close. or maybe its just me. it was nice to see a qb with some accuracy atleast most of the time though, if only our receivers could actually hold onto the ball it would have been a far different game imo.
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Old 11-21-2004, 11:34 PM   #12
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Smile Ramsey

He played about as well as anyone could expect him to. I personally thought that he had a very respectable game also considering the fact that many of his receivers dropped balls, and his offensive lineman had numerous penalties in precarious situations where the Redskins were seemingly driving for Touchdowns. I think there are numerous positives that we can take from this game including the fact that we played extremely well despite a few penalities/ mishaps that kept us in the game up until we lost our concentration in the fourth quarter. I think that if we get all gears on the same functioning level we will have a shot to do very well in the remainder of our games. We are not a team that has been taken out of the game and blown out (crossing my fingers, of course), on the contrary we are very competitive, and I have confidence in this team and its abilities. Also consider the fact that we could have very easily have won many of the games that we were in up to the very last few minutes. Have faith, BELIEVE.
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:10 AM   #13
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He played worse than I expected him to play. He completed exactly zero long passes and he produced exactoy zero TDs.

When he had men open downfield behind the last defender, he overthrew them EVERY time. I counted three of these plays; I'm not going to play back the tapes of the game to see if I mssed any.

Despite the assertions of his legion of fans on The Warpath, Patric Ramsey is - right now - a substantially sub-par QB in the NFL. That is not to say that he will not get better; he will. But as of today, he is not OK, and he's not average. He is way below average.
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:21 AM   #14
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I stronly disagree SC, even though he didn't hit the few deep attempts he had, he did exactly what this offense asked him to do today. Be efficient and not make mistakes. He also did a great job at dropping back and getting rid of the ball quickly, something we really haven't seen from him very often.

There were at least 5-6 very catchable balls that were dropped, he could have easily been 27 of 34 had guys like Gardner been able to hang on to the ball.

To me, he played better than I expected. 1 sack, 1 garbage time INT, and he completed 62% of this throws despite the receivers best attempts to not catch the ball.

But like I've said before, the problems we have on offense are much deeper than at QB.
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:27 AM   #15
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playcalling is one of those problems and then execution as well
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