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Old 03-25-2005, 12:19 PM   #1
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You're rich, now what?

In another thread the subject of rich people donating came up. I believe that people have the right to do what they like with their money. I give both my time and cash when I can. I'm also a mean spirited bastard when the mood takes me just to even up my Karma.

Do you think that the wealthy have a moral obligation to be philanthropic?

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Old 03-25-2005, 12:35 PM   #2
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Re: You're rich, now what?

Not a moral obligation, luckily for them it's a tax shelter. Personally if I had the money I would give even if it weren't a tax shelter.

Do they have a MORAL obligation. No. Do I feel that they should. Yes. Not just every time a large natural disaster hits for PR.
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:37 PM   #3
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Balance is everything. If you take, it's good to give back.
I believe it's more of a spiritual obligation than a moral one.
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That's another aspect where 'You're damned if you do..' because if they give to a disaster fund it looks like moral showboating and if they don't it looks like they're an unfeeling tightwad depending on how the media want them perceived that week.

Give quietly, regularly and it will sort its self out.
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Re: You're rich, now what?

do the wealthy have a moral obligation to be philanthropic? sure...just as the rest of us do. whether it's spare change in the collection basket each Sunday, or a $100,000 check to Jerry's Kids, or volunteering to coach a youth league, i believe we all have a moral obligation to provide what we can to those who need it.

some can provide more (time and/or money) than others...but i feel that we are still obliged to provide what we can, when we can do so.
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Old 03-25-2005, 02:03 PM   #6
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do the wealthy have a moral obligation to be philanthropic? sure...just as the rest of us do. whether it's spare change in the collection basket each Sunday, or a $100,000 check to Jerry's Kids, or volunteering to coach a youth league, i believe we all have a moral obligation to provide what we can to those who need it.

some can provide more (time and/or money) than others...but i feel that we are still obliged to provide what we can, when we can do so.
Great way to put it, everyone should feel obligated to lend a helping hand whenever possible.
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Great way to put it, everyone should feel obligated to lend a helping hand whenever possible.
I can't agree here. If you feel obligated, that means you feel it's your personal responsibility to help, which goes against the very definition of the words generosity and philanthropy.

If someone gives of themselves, I look at them with admiration. I don't view them as someone simply doing their job. After all, fulfilling an obligation is the same thing as doing your job.
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:42 PM   #8
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No obligation whatsoever. They call it "generosity" for a reason.

If I were filthy rich, and I decided to give $1 million to the Tsunami relief efforts, and I heard someone say that they thought I was obligated to do that, I'd be real pissed.

When people are giving of their time or financial resources, they deserve to be thanked and appreciated.
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Old 03-25-2005, 12:56 PM   #9
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Exactly. I haven't read what people said in my response to the "Unique Whips" thread, but I basically agree with what most of everyone has said. There is no TRUE obligation, but it is a good thing to donate what people can, when they can.
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Is a philanthropist a better person than a non-philanthropist?
Is it our obligation to be the best people we can be?
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Is a philanthropist a better person than a non-philanthropist?
absolutely not.
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absolutely not.
Do you think more good people are philanthropists or non-philanthropists?
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i consider a moral obligation as something that my morals would lead me to believe I would do...do I personally think that charity is a moral obligation? Yes I do. Doesn't mean the next Joe, Schneed or Malcolm does...and that's cool. that is certainly your preogative. that is a problem with humans in general. most cannot disassociate themselves to form a valid opinion, and realize that your opinion may not be right or wrong. there is always room for gray area...you certainly do not always have to be right.

my morality leads me to believe that giving of yourself for charitable reasons is obligatory. for if you do not give, who will?
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i consider a moral obligation as something that my morals would lead me to believe I would do...do I personally think that charity is a moral obligation? Yes I do. Doesn't mean the next Joe, Schneed or Malcolm does...and that's cool. that is certainly your preogative. that is a problem with humans in general. most cannot disassociate themselves to form a valid opinion, and realize that your opinion may not be right or wrong. there is always room for gray area...you certainly do not always have to be right.

my morality leads me to believe that giving of yourself for charitable reasons is obligatory. for if you do not give, who will?
You.

J/K

This is definitely one of those areas where it is completely subjective and I too, feel that I should help charity. I don't know if this is out of obligation or not. It's one of those natural reactions because of how I was raised.
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i consider a moral obligation as something that my morals would lead me to believe I would do...do I personally think that charity is a moral obligation? Yes I do. Doesn't mean the next Joe, Schneed or Malcolm does...and that's cool. that is certainly your preogative. that is a problem with humans in general. most cannot disassociate themselves to form a valid opinion, and realize that your opinion may not be right or wrong. there is always room for gray area...you certainly do not always have to be right.

my morality leads me to believe that giving of yourself for charitable reasons is obligatory. for if you do not give, who will?
That's cool, I admire that you're able to not press your views on somebody who doesn't believe the same thing you do.

You should check out the Terri Schiavo thread. At the end of the thread we got all Socrates about personal belief systems.

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread...2&page=3&pp=10
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