Sean Taylor - What if...

[Daseal]

Okay, assuming the reports are true, and Sean Taylor DOESN'T want a new contract, but shows up for minicamp; do you think he should be the starter? That is assuming he's the best FS we have on the team -- which I'm sure he will be.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I'd like to know his reasons first. He could have at least picked up the phone and called somebody.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

It's kind of like the Chapelle situation. People are going to start speculating until someone hears from him.

[gortiz]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's kind of like the Chapelle situation. People are going to start speculating until someone hears from him.

Chappelle and Sean Taylor in the same thread! classic.

Sean Taylor will start if he comes back, no doubt. Gregg Wiliams loves the guy and Gregg Wiliams has St. Joe's ear. But I swear, he is probably testing the patience of a few important people. . .

Do I like him as much? HELL NO!

Do I think that Taylor is an F-up? hell Yes!

but he is our F-up, so until he completly screws us like coles, I'm on his side.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

I say sit him. I'm sick of catering to pouting 22 year-olds who think they're somehow above the team and can make up and live by their own rules. Not for the whole season, but send a message that he's not indispensible.

Last year we had the #3 D in the entire NFL, and we did that without him being a starter the first few games, without Arrington for most of the season, without Daniels for most of the season, without Barrow (who was the projected starter going into the year), without Bowen for a host of games, and without other defensive players for games here and there througout the season. I have no reason to believe this year will be any different. It's GW's system that makes our defense great, not Sean Taylor.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I definitely think he gets benched. I just wish SOMEONE would comment. Just the way Portis talks about things, it really does seem that Taylor got burnt out from football.

gortiz, the similarities between him and Chapelle get weirder every minute!

[Daseal]

Am I the only one who thinks our defense was better BECAUSE Bowen was out? He had a great game vs TB, but that guy is horrible in passing situations.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Am I the only one who thinks our defense was better BECAUSE Bowen was out? He had a great game vs TB, but that guy is horrible in passing situations.

You are not alone, Man.
Bowen is a huge liability in the passing game. But he is good at blitzing the QB.
If his pass defense skills do not improve he will eventually be replaced. I do not like it that we have to sub our safeties depending on situations. Teams will exploit it and throw over to bowen when he is in.

I know it is summer and not much Skins news to talk about....but in this over saturated media, overly judgemental (church lady) time we live in...some of you guys are ready to throw ST under the bus for these minor issues? Yes this isn't high school, but the NFL is not nor has it ever been a high moral place. Some of our past stars were much worse than ST. I worry about alienating all our good players because some hypocritical/overl judgmental repoters are burning players publicly.
Let ST show up on Sundays and play his heart out for us. Leave him alone. The guy will be a probowl player soon. What he does on his spare time is his bussiness, not ours. VOLUNTARY WORK OUT - change the name if they are not voluntary!

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Daseal

Am I the only one who thinks our defense was better BECAUSE Bowen was out? He had a great game vs TB, but that guy is horrible in passing situations.

If Taylor is the best player at his position, he should start.

Now I disagree about Bowen. I think he brought a good demention to our defense; with his blitzes and play against the run. I think he should be taken out on passing situations, because both Andre Lott and Ryan Clark are faster than he is. Its not to say he'll never face the situation, but I dont think him being injured helped our team.

When you look at the whole picture, we have 4 very capable safties; and two are going to play. No matter which two are playing, I dont really see that as a big problem area on the team. I think Lott, Clark, Bowen and obviously Taylor are good enough to be put in and not miss a beat.

[Teemotay]

It's funny, ST has his own website www.seantaylor36.com, but it's been down for the past 2 weeks. Quite frankly, the site is pretty awful, but I did take a gander into the forum section, and Sean was getting slammed left and right....on his own fan website. Oh, and when I say "slammed", I'm not implying that anyone has said anything negative about how he plays...I mean, how could ya. But as far as his holdout is concerned, he was getting very little support. I think he's got a lot of growing up to do, but I also think that he'll be our starter (and should be).

[Redskins8588]

Does everyone here realize that this is the NFL and not high school football? If you want to win in the NFL you have to play your best players. If Taylor is the best FS we have then play him. Yeah he sat out of VOULENTARY workouts and VOULENTARY practices. Does it suck that he did this? YES!! But still you have to play your best players every Sunday weither you want to or not.

Yeah we did have the #3 D with out Arrington, Daniels, Bowen and others, but do you think that they would have been benched if they were able to play? Then just think how much better our D could have been if they all were healthy!!

I am not happy with Taylors choice not to be at redskins park, but he is the best FS we have so play him. Besides its not like we are rewarding him for sitting out, if he comes to play and he is out of shape and not at the level he was last year then yes bench him.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Yeah we did have the #3 D with out Arrington, Daniels, Bowen and others, but do you think that they would have been benched if they were able to play? Then just think how much better our D could have been if they all were healthy!!

Apples and Oranges. None of the injured players pulled the same sh!t Taylor is pulling. Of course they wouldn't be benched.....they did nothing to deserve it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I don't think it's completely out of question to bench players that piss all over you. It wouldn't be the first time a starter was put on the bench to send a message. It's been done in all professional sports. Personally, I like what Gruden did to Keyshawn, and I hope more coaches grow the balls to do that to other players like him in the future.

[djnemo65]

He's got issues, but i still say play him. he will be one of the top 3 safeties in the game in 2 years.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Apples and Oranges. None of the injured players pulled the same sh!t Taylor is pulling. Of course they wouldn't be benched.....they did nothing to deserve it.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I don't think it's completely out of question to bench players that piss all over you. It wouldn't be the first time a starter was put on the bench to send a message. It's been done in all professional sports. Personally, I like what Gruden did to Keyshawn, and I hope more coaches grow the balls to do that to other players like him in the future.

Apples and Oranges...you are comparing Me-Shawn Johnson, who yelled and physically threatened his head coach (on National TV) (on the sideline during a game) to Sean Taylor, who missed a few VOLUNTARY work outs, a BS rookie meeting, and wants a new contract? Not even close.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Apples and Oranges...you are comparing Me-Shawn Johnson, who yelled and physically threatened his head coach (on National TV) (on the sideline during a game) to Sean Taylor, who missed a few VOLUNTARY work outs, a BS rookie meeting, and wants a new contract? Not even close.

No, I'm not comparing them at all. I'm simply using the Keyshawn situation as an example of a coach being tough on a player that needs an attitude check. I never said that what ST has done (or failed to do) is the same or even as bad. I'm simply saying that I admire coaches who get tough with players and show them that they need the team more than the team needs them. ST has shown nothing but disdain and a complete lack of respect for the coaching staff. He hasn't even so much as picked up the phone to call his coach back. I'm sorry, but that's immature, disrespectful, and flat-out assinine. Is he as bad as Keyshawn? No. But I, for one, don't think that Gruden's actions should be limited to players who disrespect their coaches publicly. How many of us on this board could act in such a way to our bosses and still have a job tomorrow? Seriously, how many? And these guys are supposed to be professionals? I'm sorry, but some standard of conduct has to accompany the millions of dollars poor underpaid Sean Taylor is getting.

And I don't buy this "voluntary" argument. That's BS. EVERY OTHER teammate who can be there is there right now. If it's so "voluntary", then why doesn't the whole rest of the team have a problem showing up? Come on, he's looking like a punk right now, plain and simple. He's got absolutely NO REASON to not be there with the team. NONE.