Latest on Taylor

MTK · 06-15-2005, 03:28 PM

From the WPost:

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Yesterday, the Miami-Dade state attorney's office held a pre-filing conference to begin determining whether to prosecute safety Sean Taylor for two felony counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and one misdemeanor charge of battery. The procedure was closed to the public and Taylor's defense lawyer. The process is expected to last a few days. If the police's evidence is judged insufficient, the charges will be dropped. A decision isn't expected to be revealed until Taylor's arraignment June 24.

Red Robert · 06-15-2005, 03:37 PM

Love to see the charges dropped but at the same time this kid needs to be taught a lesson. It may be the best thing for him and our team. Thoughts?

dirtbag2112 · 06-15-2005, 03:40 PM

Mike Doss was suspended two games for firing a gun into the air. FIRING A GUN.

Schneed10 · 06-15-2005, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtbag2112

Mike Doss was suspended two games for firing a gun into the air. FIRING A GUN.

Firing a gun into the air would represent recklessness and general public disturbance, and perhaps inciting panic. Since he didn't fire it at anybody, it's not a felony.

What Taylor did was way worse. He allegedly pointed a gun at somebody, as if to threaten them. That's felony assault. If Taylor is convicted of a felony the NFL will hit him with a 4 game suspension, per the NFLs criminal conduct policy.

Hopefully the facts surrounding the situation are unclear enough for him to have the charges dropped. I'm just guessing here, but maybe if the other guys actually shot at Taylor later in the night, the police might be lacking in concrete eyewitness accounts of what happened. It's possible that the guys who fired at Taylor were the only ones who really saw what happened, and maybe they don't want to talk so much because they stole his ATVs. I dunno, I'm no lawyer, so I don't know the chances of the charges being dropped. But hopefully the facts are too fuzzy to charge him with anything.

manicd · 06-15-2005, 03:49 PM

To bad it happened in Florida and not California. You can molest and kill people in California and not get jail. But in all seriousness, I don't think he'll do any time at all. But I agree he needs his head straightened out.

memphisskin · 06-15-2005, 04:01 PM

Taylor sounds like a thug, an extremely talented thug, but a thug nonetheless. If I'm in Taylor's position and my pops is the Chief of Police, then the last thing I do when my ATV's are stolen is run up on the guys with a gun and threaten them. Maybe Taylor does need to be charged and tried, perhaps the threat of prison time will slap some sense into him. But the only thing that is clear is that Mr. Taylor just doesn't get it.

paulskinsfan · 06-15-2005, 04:04 PM

Oh he'll do time all right! Florida has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. I am a lawyer, and this whole thing is gonna come down to the credibility of the witnesses against Taylor. IF the only State witnesses are the thugs that he pointed the gun at, then the State's case could be pretty weak, unless of course Einstein gave a statement to the cops. If the state's case is weak, look for a plea to a misdemeanor and some jail time.

MTK · 06-15-2005, 04:15 PM

If the charges are dropped I don't see how we could punish him. Doesn't the league only allow you to punish a player who's actually been charged with a crime?

Red Robert · 06-15-2005, 04:22 PM

Matty is correct, no charges=no punishment

Schneed10 · 06-15-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If the charges are dropped I don't see how we could punish him. Doesn't the league only allow you to punish a player who's actually been charged with a crime?

I think it requires conviction, not just being charged.

MTK · 06-15-2005, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think it requires conviction, not just being charged.

I wasn't sure which it was, bottom line is once the charges are dropped the team can't punish him. If he misses some mandatory practices that's another story.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-15-2005, 04:38 PM

Again, I think it's the people he hangs out with in Florida. I trust Marcus Washington's judgement that Taylor is a good kid when he is with the team. I can see Taylor hanging around a bunch of thugs that didn't make it as pro football players and just hang out in the streets and cause trouble.

diehardskin2982 · 06-15-2005, 04:47 PM

ya never know it may be a bunch of "he said, she said" shit to destroy his image.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-15-2005, 04:50 PM

The fact still remains that he pulled a gun on someone...

PSUSkinsFan21 · 06-15-2005, 04:58 PM

"allegedly" pulled a gun on someone.........always use "allegedly".

06-15-2005, 03:37 PM	#2
Red Robert Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 55 Posts: 306	Re: Latest on Taylor Love to see the charges dropped but at the same time this kid needs to be taught a lesson. It may be the best thing for him and our team. Thoughts? __________________ I am tired of being a special teams ace, but I really have nothing to say.

06-15-2005, 03:40 PM	#3
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: Latest on Taylor Mike Doss was suspended two games for firing a gun into the air. FIRING A GUN.

06-15-2005, 03:49 PM	#5
manicd Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 155	Re: Latest on Taylor To bad it happened in Florida and not California. You can molest and kill people in California and not get jail. But in all seriousness, I don't think he'll do any time at all. But I agree he needs his head straightened out.

06-15-2005, 04:01 PM	#6
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Re: Latest on Taylor Taylor sounds like a thug, an extremely talented thug, but a thug nonetheless. If I'm in Taylor's position and my pops is the Chief of Police, then the last thing I do when my ATV's are stolen is run up on the guys with a gun and threaten them. Maybe Taylor does need to be charged and tried, perhaps the threat of prison time will slap some sense into him. But the only thing that is clear is that Mr. Taylor just doesn't get it.

06-15-2005, 04:04 PM	#7
paulskinsfan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: West VA Posts: 726	Re: Latest on Taylor Oh he'll do time all right! Florida has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. I am a lawyer, and this whole thing is gonna come down to the credibility of the witnesses against Taylor. IF the only State witnesses are the thugs that he pointed the gun at, then the State's case could be pretty weak, unless of course Einstein gave a statement to the cops. If the state's case is weak, look for a plea to a misdemeanor and some jail time. Last edited by paulskinsfan; 06-15-2005 at 04:25 PM.

06-15-2005, 04:15 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,832	Re: Latest on Taylor If the charges are dropped I don't see how we could punish him. Doesn't the league only allow you to punish a player who's actually been charged with a crime? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

06-15-2005, 04:22 PM	#9
Red Robert Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte, NC Age: 55 Posts: 306	Re: Latest on Taylor Matty is correct, no charges=no punishment __________________ I am tired of being a special teams ace, but I really have nothing to say.

06-15-2005, 04:38 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Latest on Taylor Again, I think it's the people he hangs out with in Florida. I trust Marcus Washington's judgement that Taylor is a good kid when he is with the team. I can see Taylor hanging around a bunch of thugs that didn't make it as pro football players and just hang out in the streets and cause trouble. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-15-2005, 04:47 PM	#13
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Latest on Taylor ya never know it may be a bunch of "he said, she said" shit to destroy his image. __________________ That got ugly fast

06-15-2005, 04:50 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,264	Re: Latest on Taylor The fact still remains that he pulled a gun on someone... __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-15-2005, 04:58 PM	#15
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: Latest on Taylor "allegedly" pulled a gun on someone.........always use "allegedly". __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

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