Win Or Lose?

[skinsguy]

Seeing as how a few have complained about today's game, I want to know this:

If you had a choice between two outcomes of today's game would have chosen us losing 45 - 42, or us winning 9 - 7 like we did today?

[BigSKINBauer]

Like we did today for one reason. Bears D is good, getting low points on them isn't too bad. But giving up 45 points to those fools would have really shown our D got worse.

But if you are saying basically our offense doing good and losing vs. Winning with an O.K offense. I would have to take a win simply because it is a win. My piece of mind isn't worth a game

[monk81]

Or lose like the Nationals 9-7...............

okay, okay, a win is a win is a win.......

[skinsfanthru&thru]

it's nice to score points and everything, but all it comes down too at the end of a day is scoring more than your opponent which the skins did today. I swear it's sounding like some people on various threads here are making it sound like we lost today. :confused:

[GoSkins!]

I'll take the win every time.
I really never thought our passing game would really get going until mid season so the score surprises me a little, but not that much. Twice we were knocking on the door but came up just a hair short. The fumble by Brown cost us a TD but we overcame it and got the W. I think Brunnel could have forced it in from the 1 yard line, but we had an opportunity to take the lead so we did. It was the right choice.

It could have (and should have) easily been 20 - 0.

Fix a couple of the mistakes and continue building timing with our WR's and we will be fine.

[kingerock]

i was encouraged today. We did have some big yard plays, but then discouraged by the turnovers and lack of TDs

I'd much rather be a 10-6 team with low scoring games than a 6-10 team sitting at home in January.

See less than 21 per game Baltimore in 2000. (12-4 team and Superbowl champs)

[SmootSmack]

There's no such thing as an RPI or coaches' poll or anything like that in the NFL. Wins are what get you in the playoffs, whether you win pretty or ugly

[MTK]

The Skins won ugly today and unfortunately unless we win 45-0 not everyone is going to be happy, and some people are downright disappointed... after a WIN!

I think the main problem is that most of us really underestimated the Bears and overestimated the Redskins.

Today we saw more of the same from what we saw from the Redskins in the preseason. An offense that is showing signs of breaking out, they're moving the ball, running the ball well and making some big plays. The points are the last thing to be added to the equation, but they will come, I guarantee.

[monk81]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Skins won ugly today and unfortunately unless we win 45-0 not everyone is going to be happy, and some people are downright disappointed... after a WIN!

I think the main problem is that most of us really underestimated the Bears and overestimated the Redskins.

Today we saw more of the same from what we saw from the Redskins in the preseason. An offense that is showing signs of breaking out, they're moving the ball, running the ball well and making some big plays. The points are the last thing to be added to the equation, but they will come, I guarantee.

Matty, I think some of us are frustrated because we continue to have problems scoring in the red zone that we saw all last year.......
but a "W" is nice, especially the game before Dallas...........

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I'm very happy with today's win. However, I think that a lot of people are less upset with how the game turned out than with what it bodes for the future. I think there are a lot of nervous hands on deck who fear a repeat of last year's offense.

[BleedBurgundy]

I think I was one of the "bitching" fans being referred to. Maybe some of us did have an unrealistic expectation for this game. Like I said in another post, I'd like to have a few weeks perspective to really know how good that D we faced today was. At this point, I'm not of the opinion that they were a top 10 defense. I just didn't see it. We struggled when we got into the red zone. That seems to be a left over concern from last year. I think the original question was something to the effect of would you rather win an ugly, close game or lose a shootout? I am glad we won, I just wasn't pleased with what I saw when we had the ball. I think I'm also irked by Ramsey not returning and it looking as though there is a convenient excuse to hand the keys to Brunell next week. I haven't heard a single vote of confidence or positive comment regarding Ramsey from a team source. We need STABILITY. Not changing QB's on the first day. And I know that there has been no word saying Brunell is now the starter, I just get the feeling that's what's going to happen...

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by monk81

Matty, I think some of us are frustrated because we continue to have problems scoring in the red zone that we saw all last year.......
but a "W" is nice, especially the game before Dallas...........

My frustration stems from the following, we barely beat a team at home starting a rookie quarterback. The Offense is yet again, inconsistent and unable to put up touchdowns. We have a quarterback controversy.

The last especially is bothersome, I saw enough of Mark Brunell last year to not want to see him start again. Gibbs has tipped his hand with how he managed the QBs. Ramsey was cleared to play, Gibbs stuck with Brunell, in the post game Gibbs praised Brunell, mute on Ramsey save focusing on how the 'team' has not learned their lesson regarding turnovers, although by team he really meant Ramsey and Brown.

Lastly in sports there is no greater way to regain the confidence of your teammates and the fans then to pick yourself up off the matt and make a comeback after being hurt. Even though I am not a NY Knicks fan, and it was before my time I know of Willis Reed coming out and playing hurt. If Gibbs thought anything of Ramsey he would have given him a chance on the first possesion after half-time, instead he stuck with his precious Brunell. With Brunell we will play not to loose, which almost always results in not winning, case in point the prevent defence. For myself this is why I am frustrated.

[STPainmaker]

A win is much better. Last year we learned alot and lost, this year I hope we win and have some tough wins. I want to win as we progress through the season. We may be singing a different tune next week in Dallas they look great....Ouch.

[BleedBurgundy]

I just watched the postgame news conference from Coach Gibbs. Brunell will start next week, just wait. FUCK.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by DirtBagZ

My frustration stems from the following, we barely beat a team at home starting a rookie quarterback. The Offense is yet again, inconsistent and unable to put up touchdowns. We have a quarterback controversy.

The last especially is bothersome, I saw enough of Mark Brunell last year to not want to see him start again. Gibbs has tipped his hand with how he managed the QBs. Ramsey was cleared to play, Gibbs stuck with Brunell, in the post game Gibbs praised Brunell, mute on Ramsey save focusing on how the 'team' has not learned their lesson regarding turnovers, although by team he really meant Ramsey and Brown.

Lastly in sports there is no greater way to regain the confidence of your teammates and the fans then to pick yourself up off the matt and make a comeback after being hurt. Even though I am not a NY Knicks fan, and it was before my time I know of Willis Reed coming out and playing hurt. If Gibbs thought anything of Ramsey he would have given him a chance on the first possesion after half-time, instead he stuck with his precious Brunell. With Brunell we will play not to loose, which almost always results in not winning, case in point the prevent defence. For myself this is why I am frustrated.

I agree that some teams we simply aren't going to be able to beat simply by getting Field Goals, no matter how well the offense moves.

However, the Bears are one of those teams we can-and did-beat with only field goals. Plus, no matter how much the offense improves this year the defense is the best part of this team and when in doubt the game will and should be put in their hands.

Also, Ramsey had a neck injury and may have suffered a concussion. Personally, I believe that with injuries like that no matter how the player says he feels you don't bring him back in that game. Let him take the rest of the day off then reassess the next day. Those injuries are too serious to risk further damage.