Lenny P. giving props to Snyder

MTK · 10-19-2005, 07:40 PM

I think the world is officially coming to an end! I'm still waiting for him to reassess his opinion of Brunell.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2193803

The other Moss

From a financial and salary cap standpoint, the offseason wide receiver trade of Santana Moss (to Washington) and Laveranues Coles (to the New York Jets) was the typical disaster for Redskins owner Dan Snyder. On the field, though, it's time to give credit to Snyder, or personnel chief Vinny Cerrato, or coach Joe Gibbs or Snyder consultants Sam Huff and Sonny Jurgensen, or maybe the George Michael Sports Machine for making the deal. Santana Moss now has twice as many touchdowns (four) as the Moss of the Randy variety, who gimped off Sunday, and could miss some time due to an injury.

Despite losing at Kansas City in the Geezer Bowl matchup of Gibbs and Weepin' Dick Vermeil, a game certain to make this week's AARP highlight package, Moss had 10 catches for 173 yards and two touchdowns, including a 78-yard scoring play. More than any other player in a Redskins uniform -- and, yeah, that's counting resurgent quarterback Mark Brunell -- it's Moss who has added much-needed verticality to the stodgy Washington offense. He now has 33 catches for 631 yards, a heady 19.1-yard average, and those four touchdowns. His average touchdown has been for 47.8 yards, a number made even more amazing when one considers that one of his scores Sunday came on a 4-yard reception. The other three trips to the end zone were strictly of the roaming-call ilk: 39, 70 and 78 yards.

To be fair, Coles has suffered from the dearth of quarterback consistency in New York, and has just an 11.1-yard average and one touchdown on 26 receptions. But if it's at all possible to eliminate the financial considerations, and that's always a difficult thing to do in the era of the salary cap, the Moss-Coles trade looks pretty lopsided right now.

The littler Moss is on pace for a 2,019-yard season. Only once in four previous seasons has he topped 1,000 yards. Heck, he's only surpassed 838 yards one time. If Santana can avoid his annual hammy injury, he could certainly earn himself a Pro Bowl berth.

celts32 · 10-19-2005, 07:50 PM

Even though he gave credit it was still littered with underhanded remarks that demonstarte a clear dislike for the Redskins. I think Redskin fans in general have become a little thin skinned when it comes to criticism. However, in this case it is clear that pasta can't stand the skins and it oozes out of every column. I also found it interesting that when the skins were winning thier first three games he completely ignored them in his Monday column, but as soon as they lost he wrote about them again.

12thMan · 10-19-2005, 07:57 PM

How much littler is Moss than Coles. They are listed pretty much as the same size.

Either way Moss plays big and isn't scared to go accross the middle.

wolfeskins · 10-19-2005, 08:17 PM

"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain"

Riggo44 · 10-19-2005, 08:45 PM

Wow! For once I would have to say I agree with him. :confused:

dmek25 · 10-19-2005, 08:45 PM

i love s moss,buts lets not get on l coles for not going over the middle.he was ten times tougher than i ever thought he would be.but with that said,if you could take the 9 million dollar cap hit out of the equation,this trade would be the steal of the century for the skins

BigSKINBauer · 10-19-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Even though he gave credit it was still littered with underhanded remarks that demonstarte a clear dislike for the Redskins. I think Redskin fans in general have become a little thin skinned when it comes to criticism. However, in this case it is clear that pasta can't stand the skins and it oozes out of every column. I also found it interesting that when the skins were winning thier first three games he completely ignored them in his Monday column, but as soon as they lost he wrote about them again.

exellent assessment, i agree. I want him to say "i was wrong"

ONCE A BITCH ALWAYS A BITCH

skinsguy · 10-19-2005, 08:53 PM

The "geezer bowl?" Whatever Pastabelly!

CrazyCanuck · 10-19-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Even though he gave credit it was still littered with underhanded remarks that demonstarte a clear dislike for the Redskins. I think Redskin fans in general have become a little thin skinned when it comes to criticism. However, in this case it is clear that pasta can't stand the skins and it oozes out of every column. I also found it interesting that when the skins were winning thier first three games he completely ignored them in his Monday column, but as soon as they lost he wrote about them again.

Agreed. That geezer line was definitely uncalled for. Pasta's so useless. I only read the article cuz it was posted in the thread. Otherwise I wouldn't even have bothered clicking on the link.

saskin · 10-19-2005, 11:54 PM

Why does Pastabelli hate us? I thought Snyder had some of the best buffets around!

joethiesmanfan · 10-20-2005, 07:27 AM

He just stated the obvious that everyone has been talking about for the past two weeks. But those comments that have nothing to do with the trade like Geezer bowl have prompted me to email this clown for the first time.

VTSkins897 · 10-20-2005, 08:42 AM

maybe the buffet is not all you can eat

Southpaw · 10-20-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

How much littler is Moss than Coles. They are listed pretty much as the same size.

I think he's calling him the littler Moss because he's smaller in stature and media attention than Randy Moss.

I bet it eats him up inside to have to acknowledge a Redskins player as being exceptional.

firstdown · 10-20-2005, 09:57 AM

He acts like we had some kind of choice in the matter. Cole's wanted out so we had to trade him for someone so we took a negative and turned it into a real positive. In all we made the very best out of a bad situation and if we can keep making those kind of calls great things are coming our way.

FRPLG · 10-20-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

He acts like we had some kind of choice in the matter. Cole's wanted out so we had to trade him for someone so we took a negative and turned it into a real positive. In all we made the very best out of a bad situation and if we can keep making those kind of calls great things are coming our way.

Yeah it is kind of crappy how all of a sudden it seems everyone has forgotten that Coles forced our hand (with a little help from that asshole DeMasio) and the Skins had to choose between keeping a disgruntled player, cutting him for nothing or trading him for something. True trading him for Moss cost us 9 mil on the cap this year plus Moss's new deal but the cap hit goes away after this year and we have a good WR in return. They're only real choice was between getting something for something or getting nothing for nothing.

10-19-2005, 07:40 PM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,831	Lenny P. giving props to Snyder I think the world is officially coming to an end! I'm still waiting for him to reassess his opinion of Brunell. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2193803 The other Moss From a financial and salary cap standpoint, the offseason wide receiver trade of Santana Moss (to Washington) and Laveranues Coles (to the New York Jets) was the typical disaster for Redskins owner Dan Snyder. On the field, though, it's time to give credit to Snyder, or personnel chief Vinny Cerrato, or coach Joe Gibbs or Snyder consultants Sam Huff and Sonny Jurgensen, or maybe the George Michael Sports Machine for making the deal. Santana Moss now has twice as many touchdowns (four) as the Moss of the Randy variety, who gimped off Sunday, and could miss some time due to an injury. Despite losing at Kansas City in the Geezer Bowl matchup of Gibbs and Weepin' Dick Vermeil, a game certain to make this week's AARP highlight package, Moss had 10 catches for 173 yards and two touchdowns, including a 78-yard scoring play. More than any other player in a Redskins uniform -- and, yeah, that's counting resurgent quarterback Mark Brunell -- it's Moss who has added much-needed verticality to the stodgy Washington offense. He now has 33 catches for 631 yards, a heady 19.1-yard average, and those four touchdowns. His average touchdown has been for 47.8 yards, a number made even more amazing when one considers that one of his scores Sunday came on a 4-yard reception. The other three trips to the end zone were strictly of the roaming-call ilk: 39, 70 and 78 yards. To be fair, Coles has suffered from the dearth of quarterback consistency in New York, and has just an 11.1-yard average and one touchdown on 26 receptions. But if it's at all possible to eliminate the financial considerations, and that's always a difficult thing to do in the era of the salary cap, the Moss-Coles trade looks pretty lopsided right now. The littler Moss is on pace for a 2,019-yard season. Only once in four previous seasons has he topped 1,000 yards. Heck, he's only surpassed 838 yards one time. If Santana can avoid his annual hammy injury, he could certainly earn himself a Pro Bowl berth.

10-19-2005, 07:50 PM	#2
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder Even though he gave credit it was still littered with underhanded remarks that demonstarte a clear dislike for the Redskins. I think Redskin fans in general have become a little thin skinned when it comes to criticism. However, in this case it is clear that pasta can't stand the skins and it oozes out of every column. I also found it interesting that when the skins were winning thier first three games he completely ignored them in his Monday column, but as soon as they lost he wrote about them again. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

10-19-2005, 07:57 PM	#3
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder How much littler is Moss than Coles. They are listed pretty much as the same size. Either way Moss plays big and isn't scared to go accross the middle.

10-19-2005, 08:17 PM	#4
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

10-19-2005, 08:45 PM	#5
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder Wow! For once I would have to say I agree with him. :confused: __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-19-2005, 08:45 PM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder i love s moss,buts lets not get on l coles for not going over the middle.he was ten times tougher than i ever thought he would be.but with that said,if you could take the 9 million dollar cap hit out of the equation,this trade would be the steal of the century for the skins

10-19-2005, 08:53 PM	#8
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder The "geezer bowl?" Whatever Pastabelly! __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-19-2005, 11:54 PM	#10
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 37 Posts: 355	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder Why does Pastabelli hate us? I thought Snyder had some of the best buffets around!

10-20-2005, 07:27 AM	#11
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder He just stated the obvious that everyone has been talking about for the past two weeks. But those comments that have nothing to do with the trade like Geezer bowl have prompted me to email this clown for the first time.

10-20-2005, 08:42 AM	#12
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 42 Posts: 890	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder maybe the buffet is not all you can eat

10-20-2005, 09:57 AM	#14
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Lenny P. giving props to Snyder He acts like we had some kind of choice in the matter. Cole's wanted out so we had to trade him for someone so we took a negative and turned it into a real positive. In all we made the very best out of a bad situation and if we can keep making those kind of calls great things are coming our way.

Lenny P. giving props to Snyder

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