Taylor Effing Heinicke

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I have zero issue with him being our number 2 guy but I wouldn't go crossing off QB as one of the Redskins needs right now.

I don't think anybody is saying he's the franchise QB. But he can buy us some time and give us flexibility going forward, that's all.

[ODUWFT]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Makes me laugh when people are so quick to judge on a small sample size. It's clear from his physical talents he's capable of being a good #2 but he won't be a long term starter anywhere. However, to judge whether he's worth keeping around long term as a fixture @ #2 lets give him more than a little over 1/2 a season to show what he can do shall we?

Makes me laugh when people criticize someone for a post then write the exact same post that made them laugh but with their spin. What do you think you are doing! lol Your taking a small sample size and making a judgement that it is CLEAR he isnt a long term starter! Also realize not all of us have a small sample size some of us watched him up close for 4 years.

Sure the odds are he isnt the long term elite starter or for that matter just an average long term starter because it is difficult.

But realize any point you make that he isnt someone can make a point that they think he is at this point. The only thing your looking at is arm strength because he has some elite physical skills other then the arm. What makes me laugh is so many posters get hung up on arm strength.

I keep hearing accuracy and mention of missed throws, sorry the 66% completion dont support that conclusion. So much more then just arm strength goes into being a good QB, so much more!

[mooby]

Originally Posted by ODUWFT

Makes me laugh when people criticize someone for a post then write the exact same post that made them laugh but with their spin. What do you think you are doing! lol Your taking a small sample size and making a judgement that it is CLEAR he isnt a long term starter! Also realize not all of us have a small sample size some of us watched him up close for 4 years.

Sure the odds are he isnt the long term elite starter or for that matter just an average long term starter because it is difficult.

But realize any point you make that he isnt someone can make a point that they think he is at this point. The only thing your looking at is arm strength because he has some elite physical skills other then the arm. What makes me laugh is so many posters get hung up on arm strength.

I keep hearing accuracy and mention of missed throws, sorry the 66% completion dont support that conclusion. So much more then just arm strength goes into being a good QB, so much more!

Taylor is that you?

He could be the long term solution - but in order for that to happen he has to be consistently above-average. The last two weeks is a good start but he needs to keep it going. And if he goes into next season as the starter and regresses again he loses all that goodwill he got from this year.

[MTK]

The question of him being a good backup was answered long ago for me. He's clearly earned a spot in this league as a backup at the very least. I think the question now is can he be a lower level starter? With the way he's played lately against some very good defenses he seems well on his way to answering that question too.

[MTK]

No need to dick around with retreads like Mariota or Trubisky.

[GridIron26]

Given the limited options for QBs next year and assuming that Wilson & Rodgers do not want to play for WFT, I think there will be a good chance we continue to add pieces to the team and roll with Heinicke. In 2023, we should have a solid team, which will afford us the opportunity to trade up for a QB if there is one we like in the 2023 draft.

[MTK]

I should say nobody is calling him the franchise QB right at this moment. If he keeps playing like he has been who knows where this conversation may be in a few more weeks lol.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

I should say nobody is calling him the franchise QB right at this moment. If he keeps playing like he has been who knows where this conversation may be in a few more weeks lol.

Yeah, I keep forgetting that the dude only has 10 NFL starts.

[AnonEmouse]

I'd agree roll with him into next season and don't look for another vet. Certainly don't trade for one even if AR is available. I'd go BPA in the draft and see if one of the top 2022 QB's is available when we draft in Rd 2 or 3. Or maybe trade down from our rd1 spot to accumulate capital for the likelihood of trading up for a QB in 2023. The other luxury of having Heinicke as the incumbent #1 is we can draft a lower round QB project and if that fails we don't lose much. Definitely don't reach in Rd 1 or 2!

[jamf]

Hopefully we avoid another Kirk situation.
I'd jump of the Coronado bridge if they have to franchise this guy because they went into 2022 season with a wait and see attitude.

If he is the guy, you extend his contract at the end of the season.
If he is just another Colt McCoy type backup(Colt had a big win yesterday against SEA), you extend him for modest money and draft QBs till you get it right.

Heinicke is an awesome player at $1m per year and I would love to have him as a backup.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by jamf

Hopefully we avoid another Kirk situation.
I'd jump of the Coronado bridge if they have to franchise this guy because they went into 2022 season with a wait and see attitude.

If he is the guy, you extend his contract at the end of the season.
If he is just another Colt McCoy type backup(Colt had a big win yesterday against SEA), you extend him for modest money and draft QBs till you get it right.

Heinicke is an awesome player at $1m per year and I would love to have him as a backup.

I think that, unless he goes off the deep end, you extend him at the end of the season regardless.

Short term, TH needs to continue to improve/work on the following:
- Accuracy
- Decision making
- Playing his role

For the long term, if he's to become a franchise QB, he needs to show he can throw the deep ball (we have way too much talent at receiver to have that limitation) and to be able to put the team on his back when needed.

I'm cautiously optimistic about him right now, I believe he's trending in the right direction, and having a strong running game has been a huge lift for him.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

(we have way too much talent at receiver to have that limitation)

I agree with everything except this.
McLaurin is a legit #1 WR. The rest of the guys are JAGs

Those bums average 2 receptions and under 20 yards game.
There is zero pass catching talent other than McLaurin.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/...rGame/dir/desc

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by jamf

I agree with everything except this.

McLaurin is a legit #1 WR. The rest of the guys are JAGs



Those bums average 2 receptions and under 20 yards game.

There is zero pass catching talent other than McLaurin.





https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/stats/...rGame/dir/desc

My assumption, when making this comment, is that you'd have a healthy Samuel.

Terry, Samuel, and Logan are receivers that would benefit from deep passes


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

My assumption, when making this comment, is that you'd have a healthy Samuel.

Terry, Samuel, and Logan are receivers that would benefit from deep passes


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I can’t wait to see everyone on the field healthy now with TH picking up his play

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by jamf

Hopefully we avoid another Kirk situation.
I'd jump of the Coronado bridge if they have to franchise this guy because they went into 2022 season with a wait and see attitude.

If he is the guy, you extend his contract at the end of the season.
If he is just another Colt McCoy type backup(Colt had a big win yesterday against SEA), you extend him for modest money and draft QBs till you get it right.

Heinicke is an awesome player at $1m per year and I would love to have him as a backup.

Well, Bruce is gone so no matter what happens I don't think that is going to happen again.