WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

rocnrik · 01-11-2021, 09:21 PM

How is Jones looking?

jamf · 01-11-2021, 09:31 PM

I would like to avoid another short term, overpriced vet QB.
Let Heinike/Allen/Rookie QB battle it out.
There are too many holes to fill on this team to overpay a QB.

MissouriSkin · 01-11-2021, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

How is Jones looking?

I’m a fan. He’s looking pretty good to me.

rome108 · 01-11-2021, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I would like to avoid another short term, overpriced vet QB.
Let Heinike/Allen/Rookie QB battle it out.
There are too many holes to fill on this team to overpay a QB.

No rookie QB needed. We already have our future SB winning QB on the roster. Check out Steve Montez film from his days at Colorado, super talented.

In the meantime, I am happy with Heinike/Allen combo.

Chico23231 · 01-11-2021, 09:47 PM

Justin Field looks like trash. I don’t want us to touch this guy

Mac Jones looks decent

Alabama RB Harris looks great. devonta Smith should be the second player taken in the draft

skinsfaninok · 01-11-2021, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

I’m a fan. He’s looking pretty good to me.

QB friendly scheme, a ton of speed outs and screens

Chico23231 · 01-11-2021, 10:20 PM

Kinda hope we don’t take a first round qb this year. Move back pick up more picks or move the first for Stafford

SFREDSKIN · 01-11-2021, 10:22 PM

Mac Jones stock will go up after this game, he’ll probably leapfrog Lance. In 2022 we have Allen, Payne, Logan Thomas and Settle’s contracts due, that’s why I oppose signing expensive free agents.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...football-team/

MissouriSkin · 01-11-2021, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

QB friendly scheme, a ton of speed outs and screens

And......

SFREDSKIN · 01-11-2021, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Justin Field looks like trash. I don’t want us to touch this guy

Mac Jones looks decent

Alabama RB Harris looks great. devonta Smith should be the second player taken in the draft

Zach Wilson.

skinsfaninok · 01-11-2021, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

And......

that wont work in the league but I do think he's a solid option at 19 if they want

SFREDSKIN · 01-11-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

that wont work in the league but I do think he's a solid option at 19 if they want

I don't think he'll be there at 19, I think Trey Lance gets leapfrogged.

skinsfaninok · 01-11-2021, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I don't think he'll be there at 19, I think Trey Lance gets leapfrogged.

I hope so, I'd take Lance all day

SFREDSKIN · 01-11-2021, 11:26 PM

An average QB in college championship game doesn’t go 36-44 for 464 yards and 5 TD’s 0 Int’s. I know he’s got weapons but still needs to play against a pretty aggressive defense. After this game, I want that guy.

AnonEmouse · 01-12-2021, 06:48 AM

I think the staff have 3 keys to decide how they approach the draft, FA and any trade option, and in this order:

1) How likely are we to have a desirable QB available at 19 without any trading up?
2) What capability do we have to trade up without giving up too much capitol?
3) If we can't get a QB at 19 (and don't see starter material in a lower pick), who is available via FA or trade that could start for at least 2 years while we look at future drafts for a long term successor?

Way I see it there are 6 teams above us that would probably take a good QB if available at their slot (I discount Jax as it's probably nailed on they take Lawrence) but I'm not sure I see any of them desperate enough to trade any further up. I'd say the Bears might trade up if they see an opportunity to get their guy. To me that says it's highly unlikely that any of the top 3 prospects are available at 19, maybe even top 4 are gone, so it's highly likely that the answer to 1 is very unlikely.

While we haven't thrown away picks recently so have some capitol to trade up, to me we'd need to be trading with maybe the Jets (very expensive) Falcons (not much cheaper) or 49ers to get a good prospect with their pick. I believe that even with an above average QB we could be competing for the East crown for 2-3 years, so our future draft position is likely to be mid round. We'd have to therefore give up more picks than a team like the Panthers to move up. And we really don't want a RG3 Mk2 trade to happen. I therefore think our capability to trade up is limited (without giving away too much).

FA is limited. I only see Fitz as a possible successful 2 year starter, assuming Heinicke isn't cut out for QB1. The other options don't hold out much promise as they haven't shown any real success or are basically too old/immobile. Which would leave us with a trade, but I only see a feasible trade being Stafford or Ryan at this point and neither will come cheap (I too would love Watson but I'd say its a miracle if we could get him for much less than an entire draft worth of picks). So if we trade for either of them, we could be trading away our picks that would fetch a future franchise QB in '21 or '22.

I can't help thinking that without a massive (and dumb?) trade, we will be best served bringing in an FA to compete with Heinicke for the #1 slot this camp, then try to get a diamond in the rough development project in lower rounds, or target a guy in the 22 draft. I believe if he's still here, Smith may well be able to get our man in round 2 or 3 this year without selling off our draft.

01-11-2021, 09:21 PM	#16
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,789	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 How is Jones looking?

01-11-2021, 09:31 PM	#17
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,353	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 I would like to avoid another short term, overpriced vet QB. Let Heinike/Allen/Rookie QB battle it out. There are too many holes to fill on this team to overpay a QB.

01-11-2021, 09:47 PM	#20
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,029	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 Justin Field looks like trash. I don’t want us to touch this guy Mac Jones looks decent Alabama RB Harris looks great. devonta Smith should be the second player taken in the draft __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

01-11-2021, 10:20 PM	#22
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,029	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 Kinda hope we don’t take a first round qb this year. Move back pick up more picks or move the first for Stafford __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

01-11-2021, 10:22 PM	#23
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 Mac Jones stock will go up after this game, he’ll probably leapfrog Lance. In 2022 we have Allen, Payne, Logan Thomas and Settle’s contracts due, that’s why I oppose signing expensive free agents. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-age...football-team/ __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-11-2021, 11:26 PM	#29
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 An average QB in college championship game doesn’t go 36-44 for 464 yards and 5 TD’s 0 Int’s. I know he’s got weapons but still needs to play against a pretty aggressive defense. After this game, I want that guy. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-12-2021, 06:48 AM	#30
AnonEmouse Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 59 Posts: 2,646	Re: WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021 I think the staff have 3 keys to decide how they approach the draft, FA and any trade option, and in this order: 1) How likely are we to have a desirable QB available at 19 without any trading up? 2) What capability do we have to trade up without giving up too much capitol? 3) If we can't get a QB at 19 (and don't see starter material in a lower pick), who is available via FA or trade that could start for at least 2 years while we look at future drafts for a long term successor? Way I see it there are 6 teams above us that would probably take a good QB if available at their slot (I discount Jax as it's probably nailed on they take Lawrence) but I'm not sure I see any of them desperate enough to trade any further up. I'd say the Bears might trade up if they see an opportunity to get their guy. To me that says it's highly unlikely that any of the top 3 prospects are available at 19, maybe even top 4 are gone, so it's highly likely that the answer to 1 is very unlikely. While we haven't thrown away picks recently so have some capitol to trade up, to me we'd need to be trading with maybe the Jets (very expensive) Falcons (not much cheaper) or 49ers to get a good prospect with their pick. I believe that even with an above average QB we could be competing for the East crown for 2-3 years, so our future draft position is likely to be mid round. We'd have to therefore give up more picks than a team like the Panthers to move up. And we really don't want a RG3 Mk2 trade to happen. I therefore think our capability to trade up is limited (without giving away too much). FA is limited. I only see Fitz as a possible successful 2 year starter, assuming Heinicke isn't cut out for QB1. The other options don't hold out much promise as they haven't shown any real success or are basically too old/immobile. Which would leave us with a trade, but I only see a feasible trade being Stafford or Ryan at this point and neither will come cheap (I too would love Watson but I'd say its a miracle if we could get him for much less than an entire draft worth of picks). So if we trade for either of them, we could be trading away our picks that would fetch a future franchise QB in '21 or '22. I can't help thinking that without a massive (and dumb?) trade, we will be best served bringing in an FA to compete with Heinicke for the #1 slot this camp, then try to get a diamond in the rough development project in lower rounds, or target a guy in the 22 draft. I believe if he's still here, Smith may well be able to get our man in round 2 or 3 this year without selling off our draft.

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