Stafford in WFT Plans? He’s Available

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am so curious to see what the end price ends up being.

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Exactly.

The price is what makes this difficult.

You easily go get Stafford IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

You easily avoid Stafford, if the price is wrong.


I wouldn't be upset if the Colts found another QB somewhere. They seem to be in the best position with their cap to compete with us for him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

Exactly.

The price is what makes this difficult.

You easily go get Stafford IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT.

You easily avoid Stafford, if the price is wrong.


I wouldn't be upset if the Colts found another QB somewhere. They seem to be in the best position with their cap to compete with us for him.

Sums it up. If we get into a bidding war - hard pass. This team is not a qb away from contending, it's a qb, wr, 2nd TE, LB, and maybe a safety (if they want to do better than Jeremy Reaves at FS) away from contention.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

Sums it up. If we get into a bidding war - hard pass. This team is not a qb away from contending, it's a qb, wr, 2nd TE, LB, and maybe a safety (if they want to do better than Jeremy Reaves at FS) away from contention.

Yeah, but you can find all that in one offseason IMO.

[OnceWeWereKings]

These 2 teams are going to treat this like a Ufa would. Neither team is going to want to budge because it would set the mark for the other. The lions and Texans hold all the cards, I think. I'm excited to see how this all plays out, honestly. I want a qb for us, obviously...but the unbiased fan of sports side of me is incredibly interested to see how this all plays out across the league. Worst case scenario, we keep all our picks, (hopefully) have a good draft and improve other positions. See what Allen Allen Heineken have and maybe get a rookie playing behind someone who has been in the system.

Speaking of system....I'm not too familiar, so pardon the ignorance, but would Stafford fit our system?
I think he's the choice Ron will make. Watson is a long shot, and will likely require more than we should part with...as well as him wanting to leave a terrible front office situation....I'm sure he doesn't want to come here with our history of bullshit. Wouldnt make any sense.
And Matt ryan....just....no.
So Stafford seems like the de facto choice. I wouldn't mind having him if the price is right, and makes sense for both teams...no kings ransom, though. Please don't reach

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

Sums it up. If we get into a bidding war - hard pass. This team is not a qb away from contending, it's a qb, wr, 2nd TE, LB, and maybe a safety (if they want to do better than Jeremy Reaves at FS) away from contention.

Ok, let me ask, we won 7 games this year with basically garbage at QB, Stafford would probably take 3 of those close losses (Giants x2, just about any of the Haskins performances) and potentially make them wins, which would get us to 10 wins. Do you think a WR, TE, LB, and S could be found in the draft and FA??

If it ends up being a 1st a 3rd and like Landon Collins or something would you be in on that??

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Ok, let me ask, we won 7 games this year with basically garbage at QB, Stafford would probably take 3 of those close losses (Giants x2, just about any of the Haskins performances) and potentially make them wins, which would get us to 10 wins. Do you think a WR, TE, LB, and S could be found in the draft and FA??

If it ends up being a 1st a 3rd and like Landon Collins or something would you be in on that??

Maybe with Stafford this team wins three more games THIS year - perhaps even more...but they won't have the luxury of playing a bunch of backup QBs next year, and this division will be better. QB is the most glaring need, but definitely not the only need.

However, there's no reason to believe that they can't address WR, TE, LB, DB, and O-line in the draft and via free agency. Just can't "give up the farm" for a QB.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Maybe with Stafford this team wins three more games THIS year - perhaps even more...but they won't have the luxury of playing a bunch of backup QBs next year, and this division will be better. QB is the most glaring need, but definitely not the only need.



However, there's no reason to believe that they can't address WR, TE, LB, DB, and O-line in the draft and via free agency. Just can't "give up the farm" for a QB.

We are going to spend alot of capital to get a qb (most likely) because it is by far the most important and unsettled spot. Look who is in the superbowl this year.

That said a 1 and 3 this year possibly a conditional next year isn't giving up the farm. We have 2 3s i believe, this year's first is almost certainly going for some qb somewhere, and our cap room isn't restrictive.

Get a WR in FA, qb in Stafford and extend him, and use the 2nd round for the best lb on the board and then fill the remaining slots bpa.

That team likely wins the division convincingly next season.

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[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

We are going to spend alot of capital to get a qb (most likely) because it is by far the most important and unsettled spot. Look who is in the superbowl this year.

That said a 1 and 3 this year possibly a conditional next year isn't giving up the farm. We have 2 3s i believe, this year's first is almost certainly going for some qb somewhere, and our cap room isn't restrictive.

Get a WR in FA, qb in Stafford and extend him, and use the 2nd round for the best lb on the board and then fill the remaining slots bpa.

That team likely wins the division convincingly next season.

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Maybe that team would do well, and maybe we'll find out. We'll see. I'm just saying that you can't get all gaga about winning the division this year, and somehow that makes this team soooo close. You have to look at the circumstances that played into this team winning the division. Chances are they won't be as fortunate next year with their opponents.

I've said that a 1 and 3 is my ceiling for Stafford. I'm not interested in giving up more than that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Maybe with Stafford this team wins three more games THIS year - perhaps even more...but they won't have the luxury of playing a bunch of backup QBs next year, and this division will be better. QB is the most glaring need, but definitely not the only need.

However, there's no reason to believe that they can't address WR, TE, LB, DB, and O-line in the draft and via free agency. Just can't "give up the farm" for a QB.

Granted, but with the worst cumulative QB play this year we went 4-2 in the division and came within 4 points of sweeping it altogether, I wouldnt give up the farm either but that is what we would be doing if we got Watson. A first, and a 3rd for Stafford seems fine enough for me seeing that I dont see a QB available at 19 that is better than him and will come in immediately and produce at his level.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Ok, let me ask, we won 7 games this year with basically garbage at QB, Stafford would probably take 3 of those close losses (Giants x2, just about any of the Haskins performances) and potentially make them wins, which would get us to 10 wins. Do you think a WR, TE, LB, and S could be found in the draft and FA??

If it ends up being a 1st a 3rd and like Landon Collins or something would you be in on that??

100%

Though I think it would likely command a 1, 3, and Jonathan Allen or Montez sweat.

Which I wouldn't be ok with.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

100%

Though I think it would likely command a 1, 3, and Jonathan Allen or Montez sweat.

Which I wouldn't be ok with.

No Sweat, Allen, Payne, Matty, or obviously Chase on that trade.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Ok, let me ask, we won 7 games this year with basically garbage at QB, Stafford would probably take 3 of those close losses (Giants x2, just about any of the Haskins performances) and potentially make them wins, which would get us to 10 wins. Do you think a WR, TE, LB, and S could be found in the draft and FA??

If it ends up being a 1st a 3rd and like Landon Collins or something would you be in on that??

Quake, if the price is a first and a third, I would do that, because if the trade doesn't work out it might set us back a year or two. But if the price was in the same neighborhood as RG3's price - the answer is no. We can't pull a Saints and mortgage the future to win now - look at how screwed they are for next year minimum with no qb and 100 mil over the cap.

Yes we can fix the holes this offseason but it's not guaranteed. Also LOL at Landon Collins and any of you thinking he's worth something in a trade because he hasn't exactly been all-pro worthy since signing with us. Also my faith in Rivera's plan will go down if his solution is throwing big money out in FA.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

Quake, if the price is a first and a third, I would do that, because if the trade doesn't work out it might set us back a year or two. But if the price was in the same neighborhood as RG3's price - the answer is no. We can't pull a Saints and mortgage the future to win now - look at how screwed they are for next year minimum with no qb and 100 mil over the cap.

Yes we can fix the holes this offseason but it's not guaranteed. Also LOL at Landon Collins and any of you thinking he's worth something in a trade because he hasn't exactly been all-pro worthy since signing with us. Also my faith in Rivera's plan will go down if his solution is throwing big money out in FA.

I 100% agree with that, no way do I give up multiple 1sts and a 2nd for Stafford

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by mooby

Quake, if the price is a first and a third, I would do that, because if the trade doesn't work out it might set us back a year or two. But if the price was in the same neighborhood as RG3's price - the answer is no. We can't pull a Saints and mortgage the future to win now - look at how screwed they are for next year minimum with no qb and 100 mil over the cap.

Yes we can fix the holes this offseason but it's not guaranteed. Also LOL at Landon Collins and any of you thinking he's worth something in a trade because he hasn't exactly been all-pro worthy since signing with us. Also my faith in Rivera's plan will go down if his solution is throwing big money out in FA.

I dont think Landon gets traded I just want him gone lol

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I dont think Landon gets traded I just want him gone lol

You and me both lol. If Ron brings back Collins next year because of his contract my faith in him will plummet. Trade or release - he's gotta go.

Also in your other post add Terry Mac to that list. No d-line or Terry Mac, or even Curl for that matter. Anybody else I'd consider.