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Originally Posted by The Skinsinator

He beat an undefeated New England team at 16-0 and beat them again to win not 1 but 2 Super Bowls. It is an absolute given the Giants would retire his jersey considering he brought them 2 Lombardis.

With 2 Lombardis and 57,000 career passing yards think the Hall will be calling soon- as they should.

This is a debate I'm willing to have.

#1, he didn't do it single-handedly. He was surrounded by great talent - mainly on the defensive line that was the main reason Brady was held in check - and the offense did just enough to win. Both games. You gonna retire David Tyree's # too? Because I would argue without him Manning only has 1 ring.

The man is absolutely deserving of the ring-of-fame, or whatever the Giants equivalent is. But retiring a number? For a mildly-above average qb (and that's being complimentary) who had many average seasons despite the talent around him?

The Giants are basically saying you can be an average player who does 10-15 years and helps win a couple titles and that's good enough to have your jersey retired.

Name recognition strikes again - first it plagues the Pro Bowl, now this. This is how it starts.