Presidential Race 2024

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This whole post has to be satire or your hate for Trump has completely separated you from reality.

Those are the only 2 choices.

Hmmmmm, who should we listen to, you or .........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/23-nobel...090101266.html

23 Nobel Prize-winning economists call Harris’ economic plan ‘vastly superior’ to Trump’s

More than half of the living US recipients of the Nobel Prize for economics signed a letter that called Vice President Kamala Harris’ economic agenda “vastly superior” to the plans laid out by former President Donald Trump.

Twenty-three Nobel Prize-winning economists signed onto the letter, including two of the three most recent recipients.

“While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we believe that, overall, Harris’ economic agenda will improve our nation’s health, investment, sustainability, resilience, employment opportunities, and fairness and be vastly superior to the counterproductive economic agenda of Donald Trump,” the economists write in the letter obtained by CNN.

[Giantone]

Republicans starting the Cheat early...........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/republic...205305267.html

Republicans to press ahead in bid to block some overseas ballots

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans on Tuesday vowed to appeal court rulings rejecting their efforts to block some Americans living abroad from voting in North Carolina and Michigan, part of an aggressive legal campaign by the party ahead of the Nov. 5 election.

The Republican National Committee had filed lawsuits in the two battleground states, as well as the crucial state of Pennsylvania, challenging what they call illegal overseas voting.

On Monday, judges in Michigan and North Carolina said the RNC had no grounds to challenge the states' election statutes, and found the party failed to show it would suffer irreparable harm.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Hmmmmm, who should we listen to, you or .........

https://news.yahoo.com/news/23-nobel...090101266.html

23 Nobel Prize-winning economists call Harris’ economic plan ‘vastly superior’ to Trump’s

More than half of the living US recipients of the Nobel Prize for economics signed a letter that called Vice President Kamala Harris’ economic agenda “vastly superior” to the plans laid out by former President Donald Trump[/B].

Twenty-three Nobel Prize-winning economists signed onto the letter, including two of the three most recent recipients.

“While each of us has different views on the particulars of various economic policies, we believe that, overall, Harris’ economic agenda will improve our nation’s health, investment, sustainability, resilience, employment opportunities, and fairness and be vastly superior to the counterproductive economic agenda of Donald Trump,” the economists write in the letter obtained by CNN.

A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B. What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of basically not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B. What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of basically not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.

A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/polit...lan/index.html

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists across the political spectrum, Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/polit...lan/index.html

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists across the political spectrum, Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.

We were discussing the interview with Brett Baier, then you went on this tangent about Harris' economic plan. Always trying to control the story. That's why you constantly spam the political threads for going on 8+ years now. Can't wait for 4 more years of it too.

I didn't say anything about Trump's plan. On that note, I do need to read-up more on the exact effects of tariffs. I'm not really for or against them right now. Don't know enough about them to make a decision on them. Not going to vote for Kamala over tariffs though.

Also, Biden has kept most of the same tariffs as Trump implemented. Did Kamala say she was going to get rid of all of them? On one hand she keeps trying to say she's the "change" candidate then on the other hand has said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. So who knows?

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/

"Accordingly, since they were imposed, the trade war tariffs have raised customs duties collections by around $233 billion through March 2024.

Of that $233 billion, just $89 billion was collected during the Trump administration. The remaining $144 billion has been collected during the Biden administration."

Lastly, the fact that Paul Krugman has a Nobel Peace Prize says all I need to know about the value of that award. And 23 is not some amazing number. There are hundreds if not thousands of economists in the USA. Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We were discussing the interview with Brett Baier, then you went on this tangent about Harris' economic plan. Always trying to control the story. That's why you constantly spam the political threads for going on 8+ years now. Can't wait for 4 more years of it too.

I didn't say anything about Trump's plan. On that note, I do need to read-up more on the exact effects of tariffs. I'm not really for or against them right now. Don't know enough about them to make a decision on them. Not going to vote for Kamala over tariffs though.

Also, Biden has kept most of the same tariffs as Trump implemented. Did Kamala say she was going to get rid of all of them? On one hand she keeps trying to say she's the "change" candidate then on the other hand has said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden. So who knows?

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/biden-trump-tariffs/

"Accordingly, since they were imposed, the trade war tariffs have raised customs duties collections by around $233 billion through March 2024.

Of that $233 billion, just $89 billion was collected during the Trump administration. The remaining $144 billion has been collected during the Biden administration."

Lastly, the fact that Paul Krugman has a Nobel Peace Prize says all I need to know about the value of that award. And 23 is not some amazing number. There are hundreds if not thousands of economists in the USA. Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that.

You ignorance is astounding. You realize the Nobel is not just a "USA" prize. it's a World Wide award given to the "Best in the World" in their Fields. The fact you have the ignorance to assume that :" Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that". Seems people smarter then you threaten you so you attempt to tear them down, you're not very good at it. Had you read what I posted you would see it is across the political spectrum so your Liberal comment is ignorant as well.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You ignorance is astounding. You realize the Nobel is not just a "USA" prize. it's a World Wide award given to the "Best in the World" in their Fields. The fact you have the ignorance to assume that :" Not very hard to find 23 mostly, if not all professors (whom hopefully we can admit are predominantly liberal), to sign that". Seems people smarter then you threaten you so you attempt to tear them down, you're not very good at it. Had you read what I posted you would see it is across the political spectrum so your Liberal comment is ignorant as well.

I am well aware the Nobel Prize is world-wide. But I just assumed the 23 people that signed it were U.S. winners as it was for a U.S. economic plan. Definitely don't care what an economist from another country thinks is best for us. Of the 23 people that signed, what countries were they from? Which of the 23 are conservative? Just using a broad term like "across the political spectrum" doesn't make it true. You know damn well if you looked up these 23 people, at least 90% of them would be liberal. This is like getting Adam Kinzinger to sign a bill written by a democrat(s) and then stating the bill has bi-partisan support.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I am well aware the Nobel Prize is world-wide. But I just assumed the 23 people that signed it were U.S. winners as it was for a U.S. economic plan. Definitely don't care what an economist from another country thinks is best for us. Of the 23 people that signed, what countries were they from? Which of the 23 are conservative? Just using a broad term like "across the political spectrum" doesn't make it true. You know damn well if you looked up these 23 people, at least 90% of them would be liberal. This is like getting Adam Kinzinger to sign a bill written by a democrat(s) and then stating the bill has bi-partisan support.

Your cherry picking is making your conversation very incoherent. You still have not read the link. The letter was signed it is across the political spectrum your Liberal comment is ignorant as well .Your entire post has no fact just hateful political agenda and assumption. Which by the way is right out of the MAGA playbook.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A. What the fuck does that have to do with the Brett Baier interview?

B. What is Harris' economic plan? Noble prizes don't mean a fucking thing. No conservative would ever win one of those. A noble prize is essentially an award given to the liberal who makes other liberals the happiest that year. If I'm wrong, please let me know the last year a conservative won that "prize" for economics.

Is she actually going to lower the taxes even lower than Trump did? Because basically I have already shown here that anyone in the middle or lower (outside of not paying taxes) is the lowest it has been for at least 30 years. Is she going to lower it even further? Of course not. She, like all democrats, use phrases like "fair share", but never put any actual definitions on it.

A) It has nothing to do with Brett Baier, where did I say it does?

B) WOW so you know more about trumps Tax plain then not one World Famous Nobel winner in Economics, no you know more than 23 of them. Do you know what a moron you sound like , did you even READ THE LINK? Hell no becuase you're late night drunk posting again. Admit it, you know nothing.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/polit...lan/index.html

The letter is intentionally brief at just 228 words, which reflects both an effort to secure consensus across a broader spectrum of economists and a desire to elevate that consensus with precision, according to a person familiar with the process. The letter was drafted to incorporate feedback from the initial effort.

It also marked an effort in the final days of the campaign to elevate what those involved viewed as an acute risk posed by Trump both in his economic proposals, but also, in their view, of the potential instability he would pose in an area where certainty and stability are paramount.

The letter points to Trump’s tariff and tax policies as inflationary and likely to balloon the federal deficit – a widely held view among economists. But it also issues a stark warning.

“Among the most important determinants of economic success are the rule of law and economic and political certainty, and Trump threatens all of these,” the economists write.

Despite the warnings and forecasts from economists across the political spectrum, Trump has been steadfast in his pledge to wield threats of sweeping tariffs as a cornerstone of his economic agenda.