Does Anyone Want To Compare Brunell To Manning Now????

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Huh? So Moss isn't a deep threat either? What is ARE, a possession receiver? Patten was a deep threat in New England. You also concede that Lloyd is a deep threat. So I have no clue how you can say that we don't have deep threats.



NO team eliminates turnovers, negative plays, penalties, or failed 3rd down conversions. Plus, when you are constantly throwing screen passes or check offs to guys in the flats, you end up becoming predictable.



So you don't like throwing the ball deep? I don't know of ANYONE (other than you), that thinks that you don't need a deep passing game to have a successful offense.



Although the penalties aren't on Brunell, some of the negative plays are. He checks down on about 80% of all passing plays. Defenses just sit by the line of scrimmage and wait to jump on Portis or the guy getting the screen pass. Net result=negative plays.



Drives aren't being sustained because you can't expect a team to be able to consistently sustain 16 play drives. They need to start airing it out a bit to get teams to respect our offense and back off the line of scrimmage.

Moss, and ARE are runners. They excel when you get them the ball quickly in the open field and let them run. The key is the open field part.

And my problem is not going deep. It's with low percentage passes that don't work that have no purpose but to "open up the run". Offensively, you are going to layer your passing attack. So it becomes a progressionary thing. You throw deep to the open man when its given to you. We do this. We only get about 1-2 chances a game, but we certainly do this. The reason you only get 1-2 chances isn't rocket science. It's only going to occur when those DBs are in zone, and don't get help, because the safeties are out of position trying to take away something shorter. It's why the shorter routes are so successful. You can throw them over and over, and the defense can't always afford to gamble to stop them. We have had great success throwing those routes this year and it should shock no one. Also, it may not be that apparent, but we don't throw screens and dumpoffs every play. That's why they are often there.

And yes, I've seen the defense jump on Portis for like a 2 yard gain on a Brunell check down. But from a philosophy standpoint, this is much better than a ball thrown away (which is why Brunell is a significantly better QB than someone like, say, Kerry Collins), because once the pass is complete, something fluky can happen, like a missed tackle or a facemask, which becomes a big gainer. If not, you take your 1-2 yards, and call a different play. That's why completion percentage is significant. You give your team a chance to gain yards.

And despite all this horrible non-vertical heathen playcalling, Mark Brunell STILL is averaging 7.11 yards/attempt on the season.