How about the Players.....Play!!!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by tika49

It amazes me how people say Holdman sucks, he has played way better than last year..And to be honest he is only in half the plays that Marshall and Washington are in because he comes out on the nickle package and everytime they run that bull shit nickle on third and long the corners and safteys get burnt so do you blame Holdman then when half the plays he is on the sidelines. I think you really need to look at the d-line because it starts with and everytime they mess up it trickles back to the linebackers, cb and so on.

He has been Ok the last few weeks. But no impact plays. Your weakside backer needs to be more active.

[Alvin#40]

Never understand why someone starts a thread like this a doesn't respond........WE WILL FIND YOU!!!! AND YOUR FAMILY TOO!!! ....ok ok...we won't. Or will we?

Sorry. I feel a mob mentality. Or do I?

cough cough...i smoke entirely too much.

[tika49]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He has been Ok the last few weeks. But no impact plays. Your weakside backer needs to be more active.

you are right he has not really had any impact plays but the difference for example that I have noticed between him and a player like Washington is that Washington has to do a little dance everytime he makes a tackle and I think Holdmans personality is that he is more reserved and quiet and wants to do his job and does not any extra attention like a Marcus Washington has to have at all times. Holdman is like Lemar Marshall they are both not show boats.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by tika49

you are right he has not really had any impact plays but the difference for example that I have noticed between him and a player like Washington is that Washington has to do a little dance everytime he makes a tackle and I think Holdmans personality is that he is more reserved and quiet and wants to do his job and does not any extra attention like a Marcus Washington has to have at all times. Holdman is like Lemar Marshall they are both not show boats.

The dance needs to go. Your 4-8 on a terrible defense. Shut up an ball.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by tika49

you are right he has not really had any impact plays but the difference for example that I have noticed between him and a player like Washington is that Washington has to do a little dance everytime he makes a tackle and I think Holdmans personality is that he is more reserved and quiet and wants to do his job and does not any extra attention like a Marcus Washington has to have at all times. Holdman is like Lemar Marshall they are both not show boats.

I hate to break this to you but you have no clue. Marshall is having a poor season but he is still light years ahead of Holdman. If they could sign a true middle LB and let Marshall work the outside it would really help. It is not an accident that opposing teams run at Holdman all day long. Do you remember the G-men this year or the first game against them in NY last year?

Holdman is garbage. It isn't his fault, the game has passed him by. Why they don't play McIntosh at this point is unforgivable and just another example of how disfunctional our organization is. The best part is that I would bet my mortgage that McIntosh outplays Holdman in practice. This team pulls more stupid political bullshit than any other team in the league.

Washington is hurt. That is why his productivity is down. When he is healthy he is a stud. To compare Holdman to Washington is ridiculous.