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Old 08-20-2007, 09:52 PM   #1
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As the #4 I assume Palmer isn't getting many meaningful snaps in practice. I think it's a little unrealistic to expect him to be playing.

Like it or not you still have get your #2 and #3 QBs ready to play.
Brunell, and Collins have been in the leauge long enough to be ready for the regular season wether they get in or not. Does it really hurt to get Palmer in the last 5 mins of the game to see what this kid can do in a game situation, are those 5 mins really going to effect our backup QB's, who each have over 15 years experience as an NFL QB, from being ready for the regular season?
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:27 AM   #2
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Brunell, and Collins have been in the leauge long enough to be ready for the regular season wether they get in or not. Does it really hurt to get Palmer in the last 5 mins of the game to see what this kid can do in a game situation, are those 5 mins really going to effect our backup QB's, who each have over 15 years experience as an NFL QB, from being ready for the regular season?
I mean seriously why did we draft a QB ?.I say trade Brunell we didn't was a pick on Palmer for nothing , and also we have collins doing good now and trading for a first day pick can help us.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:55 AM   #3
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I think we need to have a young quarterback to develop. Putting Palmer on the practice squad exposes him to other teams. It would be better, I think, to make him the number three quarterback and give him the focus and attention needed to get him ready to step in if he has to.

Mark Brunell could really make a difference to the quarterback strapped Falcons and I would think that would be of interest to Mark to be in that situation. Here all he gets is the ridiculous, unwarranted, pitiful antipathy of fans looking for a scapegoat. He deserves far better. His arm strength is less than it was and though I think he is still a capable player, who has made for some special memories for any true Redskin fans, the sea tide has shifted here in DC and I think it would help him to move on.

Todd Collins on the other hand has been working in this system for years on end, and is a very capable backup. He deserves a shot to be the number two quarterback, and I think at this point he is the second best quarterback on the roster for a team using the Saunders system.
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Old 08-21-2007, 06:45 AM   #4
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Brunell, and Collins have been in the leauge long enough to be ready for the regular season wether they get in or not. Does it really hurt to get Palmer in the last 5 mins of the game to see what this kid can do in a game situation, are those 5 mins really going to effect our backup QB's, who each have over 15 years experience as an NFL QB, from being ready for the regular season?
Why bother when he's practice squad material at best??
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Old 08-21-2007, 07:00 AM   #5
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With the amount of time Campbell has been getting - up until this injury anyway - there really isn't enough time in a game for a fourth quarterback like Palmer. Collins and Brunell need the reps too.

If anyone should understand the hesitant nature of Joe Gibbs with rookie quarterbacks, it should be Redskins fans. No one should be surprised if Palmer doesn't get a chance to line up behind center during exhibition play.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:07 PM   #6
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I thought Brunell's arm look fine against the Stealer's and the int. was the WR's fault as the pass hit him in the face. I thought if anything he was throwing the ball too hard. No I'm not looking for him to start but there is no way we can let him go.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:18 PM   #7
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Re: Brunell to Birds?

Two points:

1. Why would the Falcons want Brunell? I guess Musgrave is still there, but their emphasis will be on youth. I don't think they have any interest in an old-timer at this point.

2. Collins has some nice numbers, but (and I will probably say this one hundred times in the next three weeks) his arm is absurdly weak. If he were in a situation where he had to get the ball downfield, he will either humiliate himself in front of millions of people or eat the ball, probably the latter. He is still the same check down artist we grew to hate last pre-season. I suspect that Brunell will wind up with the number 2 job. Not that it's any skin off my nose. I don't have a dog in this fight. (whoops)
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:22 PM   #8
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Two points:

1. Why would the Falcons want Brunell? I guess Musgrave is still there, but their emphasis will be on youth. I don't think they have any interest in an old-timer at this point.
The speculation is that Petrino - who was offensive coordinator during Brunell's years in Jacksonville - would want someone who can pick up his system in a hurry. He also isn't necessarily looking for a longterm answer, since Brian Brohm will be coming out next year.

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2. Collins has some nice numbers, but (and I will probably say this one hundred times in the next three weeks) his arm is absurdly weak. If he were in a situation where he had to get the ball downfield, he will either humiliate himself in front of millions of people or eat the ball, probably the latter. He is still the same check down artist we grew to hate last pre-season. I suspect that Brunell will wind up with the number 2 job. Not that it's any skin off my nose. I don't have a dog in this fight. (whoops)
If your allegation is that somone can throw more checkdowns than Brunell, I call shenanigans.

Again, I hope that, barring a beneficial trade, Mark Brunell wears #8 all year for us. I also hope he never has to launder his jersey.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:30 PM   #9
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The speculation is that Petrino - who was offensive coordinator during Brunell's years in Jacksonville - would want someone who can pick up his system in a hurry. He also isn't necessarily looking for a longterm answer, since Brian Brohm will be coming out next year. If your allegation is that somone can throw more checkdowns than Brunell, I call shenanigans.

Again, I hope that, barring a beneficial trade, Mark Brunell wears #8 all year for us. I also hope he never has to launder his jersey
Yeah, I just caught the link at PFT. I would note that it says the Falcons are talking to the Redskins, not the other way round


I stand by my post. I think Collins could easily throw as many checkdowns as M.B. Remember he is an expert in the offense, so he knows every swing pass, safety valve, and flair control like the back of his hand. Again I don't have a dog in this fight. (why hasn't this expression been purged from the language? I think it's awful) I just want people to be aware of what they are buying into.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:15 PM   #10
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while I'm not opposed to trading Brunell, there cant possibly be any market for a 30 something qback, who is on his last legs. with that being said, he knows our system, and is an adequate back up
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:50 PM   #11
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while I'm not opposed to trading Brunell, there cant possibly be any market for a 30 something qback, who is on his last legs. with that being said, he knows our system, and is an adequate back up
You think so huh....? I beleive they said the same thing about Vinny T about TEN years ago, I think he just got picked up again by the Pats....whats he 43/44..? DIRT?

Mark knows, understands our system & can be a good backup when called upon. He's not going anywhere. Nor should he.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:22 PM   #12
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I don't think we can afford it. The cap hit would hurt I imagine at this point.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:30 PM   #13
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Campbell, Collins & Palmer should be our QB's
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:33 PM   #14
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Re: Brunell to Birds?

W00t! Another how-to-get-rid-of-Brunell thread!

I mean, I think the guy's past his prime and we need to eventually look elsewhere for a backup. (Cause I don't particularly like him as a QB anymore) But common knowledge is Brunell isn't going anywhere (at least not this season) and haters will continue to seeth and the supporters will continue to seeth about the haters.

Poor Mods. You guys must be shaking your heads at these Brunell threads right about now.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:02 PM   #15
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Re: Brunell to Birds?

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W00t! Another how-to-get-rid-of-Brunell thread!

I mean, I think the guy's past his prime and we need to eventually look elsewhere for a backup. (Cause I don't particularly like him as a QB anymore) But common knowledge is Brunell isn't going anywhere (at least not this season) and haters will continue to seeth and the supporters will continue to seeth about the haters.

Poor Mods. You guys must be shaking your heads at these Brunell threads right about now.
This was never intended to be an anti-Brunell thread. Simply an opportunity to respond to a recent published report of an alleged trade interest. In fact, I believe Brunell would benefit us as a backup, and only in a backup role. Jeeze, did you see the heat on a couple of his passes last Saturday night? Yep, some weren't accurate, etc., etc. But, he could still contribute.

P.S. Have you noticed that even the "Poor Mods" have responded with comments to the thread? I know this subject has been discussed at length before, but it has resurfaced due to an injury to a Falcon's backup QB and thus rekindled the discussion.
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