BREAKING NEWS: Vick to Enter Guilty Plea

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I actually met several of the Tuskegee Airmen a few years back. That was pretty sweet

I figured you for more of a navy guy... oh come on, I'm just kidding.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I was listening to Michael Wilbon, who I do not always agree with, but I have much respect for.
He describes it thus. The media wants to interview the more controversial "leaders" in the black community as it will get more play. These opinions are generally not representative of the black community as a whole, but those of the minority, which noturally do more harm thatn good.
For what it's worth, Vick will pay for his sins with the Fed (as well he should). Beyond that, he should be afforded anything that any other ex-con should recieve. Nothing more or less.
THAT does not mean any person that wants him to burn in hell or anything else is a racist. It's sensitve stuff.
--Commissioner, THE Hog1

Its unfortunate that in 2007 race is still such a sensitive and explosive topic. Mods, I'm sorry for injecting race into this discussion, as always it is the one topic in America that is sure to inflame passions.

I went to 6 games last year and the only colors that mattered to those 93,000 were burgandy and gold. I truly wish that we could discuss these things and deal with them, instead of pretending that they never happened. Clearly how each race processes the idea of race is different, and all sides have an opinion and are entitled to it as it is clearly an indicator of their experience. But this is a Redskins forum, I respect it as such, and will leave discussions of race for another time and place. Hail to the Redskins!

[BigSKINBauer]

I still find it ironic that dogs that didn't have enough 'courage' to fight were brutally killed but the first chance vick has at sucking out and taking a plea deal he does. The details of the stories just make it worse. The fights were just part of it. The killings of dogs that didn't do well in 'test fights' is another. I hope that the judge sticks with his reputation as being a hard ass sticks it to vick. I hope he shatters that 12-18 month recommendation. I and many others will be upset unless he serves 4 years. Most won't be happy unless he spends many many more. Its unfortunate it is barred to 5 years. I really hope the judge uses his discretion.

Also good work on the lawyers part to get vick out of gambling charges so the nfl won't have a problem with that. How the f... can you convince anyone that he trained, killed, and fought dogs at HIS HOUSE and did not receive any of the money flowing in and did not gamble on his dogs. Disgusting.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Here's the problem now. He is turning states evidence against other Kennels that are not known to the Federal Government as of yet. Hopefully this will not way the Judge to give him less than the recomended minimal sentence.

He will be working for the government. So now he is a Narc.

[BigSKINBauer]

As for it being a race issue. I'm not pointing anyone out but i am saying that there is two types of racism in this world, one is the traditional understanding of racism and the other is the people who cry racism at every chance that they get.

This case is getting a lot of publicity because it is a famous athlete who is being charged. It doesn't matter if it was peyton manning or mike vick.

The NAACP of atlanta spoke on vicks defense. I think that is stupid. Why not focus on more important things? See what happened when they spent there efforts on the Duke case. It divided much of the country and completely divided that region. That wasn't the white rich school is allowed to rape a black stripper senerio as it was played at to be. It is sad what happened to those students. I'm not black but i have many friends who are and i am just repeating what some of them have spoken to me about. There are more important issues out there than this damn dog fighting shit to worry about. This isn't a race issue at all so why even speak of it. This is a self proclaiming dog fighter. I have zero remorse. This is not a white, black, brown, yellow or purple issue. I don't follow much of this and i don't have a strong opinion but this is basically exactly what one of my friends, who does said. Why even start any of this racism talk. It doesn't belong here. I'm not saying its not existent in America but focus the attention where it is needed.

This is not directed at anyone at all. Just an opinion on some things that have been thrown around in other places, not just here. This was talked about on elliot in the morning and i was listening and talking to one of my friends about it at the same time.

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Here's the problem now. He is turning states evidence against other Kennels that are not known to the Federal Government as of yet. Hopefully this will not way the Judge to give him less than the recomended minimal sentence.

He will be working for the government. So now he is a Narc.

haha, if he was a dog someone like mike vick would have shot him for his lack of courage.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

haha, if he was a dog someone like mike vick would have shot him for his lack of courage.

If Vick was a dog and someone like MV owned the falcons, they may have shot him after a couple of shitting seasons the last 2 years...... Is that to harsh?

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

As for it being a race issue. I'm not pointing anyone out but i am saying that there is two types of racism in this world, one is the traditional understanding of racism and the other is the people who cry racism at every chance that they get.

This case is getting a lot of publicity because it is a famous athlete who is being charged. It doesn't matter if it was peyton manning or mike vick.

The NAACP of atlanta spoke on vicks defense. I think that is stupid. Why not focus on more important things? See what happened when they spent there efforts on the Duke case. It divided much of the country and completely divided that region. That wasn't the white rich school is allowed to rape a black stripper senerio as it was played at to be. It is sad what happened to those students. I'm not black but i have many friends who are and i am just repeating what some of them have spoken to me about. There are more important issues out there than this damn dog fighting shit to worry about. This isn't a race issue at all so why even speak of it. This is a self proclaiming dog fighter. I have zero remorse. This is not a white, black, brown, yellow or purple issue. I don't follow much of this and i don't have a strong opinion but this is basically exactly what one of my friends, who does said. Why even start any of this racism talk. It doesn't belong here. I'm not saying its not existent in America but focus the attention where it is needed.

This is not directed at anyone at all. Just an opinion on some things that have been thrown around in other places, not just here. This was talked about on elliot in the morning and i was listening and talking to one of my friends about it at the same time.

I actually posted almost the EXACT same thing on another website.

Why can't the NAACP focus on something actually worth putting their 2 cents in? And this is coming from a Black chick no less.

I hate how the media was portraying it as the Black people vs the White animal lovers. I've been working with animals for going on 2 years, and to me, Vick deserves jail time at the least. It seems as if anytime a Black person does something wrong and gets prosecuted SOMEHOW "the man" is trying to stick it to them. Or vice versa, where a Black person is the victim and the perp gets off/doesn't get charged/etc. And then, "the man" is racist for not trying hard enough if at all. Which in some cases, is true. But in this case, its definitely not (to me at least).

So I agree that this whole playing the race card thing is played out. I dunno why some people try so hard to put a division in between races again. I know I'm not living in a utopia where everyone is gonna get along with everyone else.

But. I dunno. I feel like I'm ranting now. lol

"Can't we all just, get along?"