Redskins vs. Jets game thread

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Maybe it's time to start handing out bans? I was not thrilled being on this site when we were making that come back and when we were tied. There were several that said "game over" and didn't even give us a chance. What the hell happened to the fans around here? It's very disturbing to be on a REDSKINS website and have to deal with people that ALWAYS think the Skins will lose. Shit, I can get that from my Cowboys friends, I don't need that here!

I agree completely. This solidifies the points I made in the "will the Skins make the playoffs?" thread last week. It's sickening how many bandwagon, fairweather fans are on this site, claiming to be Redskins fans when things are going good and then acting like they WANT the team to lose on Sundays.

It's ridiculous and unneeded talk, especially in a game thread. If you aren't pulling for your team to win when they're down, you're not a fan. If you aren't wanting them to turn the bad into good and win for the rest of the year, you're not a fan. Being a fan is not about looking at stats or standings and basing your predictions on them, it's about wanting and believing your team will win no matter who they're playing.



This is why I don't come on here Sundays. I just read the game thread on Mondays. I couldn't handle some of you people during the games, it's like you're rooting for the other team.

[MTK]

I want to clarify that we have never banned anyone for having a differing opinion, and we never will. Frankly I get annoyed to no end when someone says "hey watch out you're going to get banned for saying something negative." That's just not true.

However, the irrational trolls that do nothing but bitch, cry, and complain from kickoff to the final whistle may be subject to the boot.

[mheisig]

Being frustrated with your teams performance in no way indicates that you are less of a fan.

I'll admit I was a little pissed yesterday. I just wanted to see a little more attitude from the team.

I don't believe I cried "game over" when we lost the coin toss, but I'll also admit I was pretty damn nervous about the Jets getting the ball first.

I think "real fans" are elated when we get a win, and pissed when we lose. I know after I a loss I'm in a foul mood and don't want to talk to anyone until late Sunday night.

I'm pretty happy with this win. Portis kicked it into high gear and we avoided serious mistakes. 5-3 isn't bad going into our NFC East matchups.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mheisig

I think "real fans" are elated when we get a win, and pissed when we lose. I know after I a loss I'm in a foul mood and don't want to talk to anyone until late Sunday night.

You're right about that, but we have people in the predictions threads picking us to lose to bad teams and then calling for Gibbs to be fired when we turn the ball over...and continue to say we're going to lose and our season is over all game...then disappear when we pull out a win.

If you don't have faith in your team, you're not a fan. It doesn't matter if all 11 of our offensive starters get hurt and we're playing with all scrubs, if you're really a fan, you'll still want them to win.

These people are annoying.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I want to clarify that we have never banned anyone for having a differing opinion, and we never will. Frankly I get annoyed to no end when someone says "hey watch out you're going to get banned for saying something negative." That's just not true.

However, the irrational trolls that do nothing but bitch, cry, and complain from kickoff to the final whistle may be subject to the boot.

I'd like to echo that sentiment. No one is banned here for a differing opinion. Gmanc thinks playcalling is a big issue, I think the bigger issue is execution, or lack thereof. SGG thought Mike Williams was worth discussing, Matty thought is was pointless. BrudLee thinks Britney's new album "is a raw, heartfelt rumpshaker that takes the listener to a trascendental state where he/she can reflect on the inner turmoil that rages inside all of us" Summo thinks it's a "vapid, smug amelodic mess that speaks volumes about the incoherent vitriol that is Britney Spears"

But you know what? We're all mods here, so clearly there is no banning for differing opinions going on here.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by mredskins

now switching to pats game, enjoy the toture guys

Ok I like to go back and read a couple post here in there after a game to see all of the reactions. I found this post as the game was headed into overtime and need to ask. If your such a big skins fan how can you switch over to another game when we are headed into overtime?

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Ok I like to go back and read a couple post here in there after a game to see all of the reactions. I found this post as the game was headed into overtime and need to ask. If your such a big skins fan how can you switch over to another game when we are headed into overtime?

One-hundred percent in agreement with you there. I actually read all 46 f-ing pages because...well, I can't tell you why I did that actually, guess I wanted to waste 20 min of my life...but that comment stuck out as the worst among some pretty bad ones. At least the people bitching were apparently watching the game. This dude is going to switch over to see what? The pre-game hype and the kickoff after the Skins lost the toss? The game had me pulling out my hair, but why the hell do I care what happens in the first 5 minutes of the Colts-Pats game? Were you seriously that brainwashed by the media-hype that you just HAD to switch over to see kickoff and some commercials?

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by NYCSkin

While I agree the "game over" posts are nonsense after the first bad play--this site is a "forum" where opinions, whether rationale or not, are discussed. Should someone opine in a negative fashion that does not exclude them from being a "fan".

I, for one, am a member of the Warpath's "Pessimists Caucus". After 15 years, and two playoff wins--I am frustrated. And there is nothing wrong with that. It is mine and other "fans" right to feel this way. However, lumping all the "Kool Aid Caucus" as the "real" Skins' fans and suggesting bans for contrarian posters is perhaps the most ridicules (sic) opinion I have heard on this very competent site...

NYCSKIN
loyal Redskins fan since 1976...

We all share in your frustration, but does that warrent the "game over" comments when we're winning? I think not.
There is a big difference between being a frustrated fan, and being negative nilly. There are many more positive ways to display your frustration. IE: "The play calling is getting really annoying." No one complains about that kind of stuff. It's the "we suck" and "we will lose" comments that annoy the shit out of most of the real fans. Sorry if this offends some, but yes, to me there is a big difference between the real fans and the fake ones. Just go back through this thread and anyone that said "game over" or "we suck" are not real fans. Real fans don't quit on the team!!!

ps- Loyal fan since 1978!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by DCborn

It is a win in OT...against a team with a now 1 and 8 record... I'm not feeling we are near geling as a team yet. We need more sparks on offense ....Our WRs need to catch more TD's and deep passes.

We play to our opponants. With the exception of the Pats game, we have not lost by more than a TD. We have played 4 games with the deciding factor being 3 points. (we're 3-1 in those games) Just because we're not blowing teams away that have poor records doesn't mean anything. We're not that kind of team.

In case people haven't noticed, we'd be in first place in 3 different divisions, 2nd place in 2 others. 5-3 is a damn good record in the NFL today. Only 8 teams have a better record than we do! So I don't know about you guys, but my "frustration" is a little tempered by the fact that we are in fact winning. I think we are a better team than our 5-3 record reflects, and I think we can play a lot better, that's where my frustration is...but being 5-3 is nothing to sneeze at.