Where was the blocking today?

[70Chip]

Fabini and Wade are just a disaster. I had some hope when Heyer came in for a play or two, but Wade was determined to suck and came back in the game. It was the o-line's worst game of the season.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Not sure where they were but they wern't at Fed/Ex Field.
They were terrible and almost got JC killed.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Fabini and Wade are just a disaster. I had some hope when Heyer came in for a play or two, but Wade was determined to suck and came back in the game. It was the o-line's worst game of the season.

I specifically made it point to watch Fabini and Wade. They are both good back-ups at best. I think both should be on the team next year, but not starting. Wade is always, I mean always banged up. He can't stay healthy for an entire series it seems. Also, Pete Kendall has slowed down a bit since the beginning of the season. He's moving on two ailing knees and I'm not sure how much more they dope them up to keep him going. Don't get me wrong, he's not terribly but has seemed to lose some gas as of late.

Samuels is still solid. No real complaints there. He's a real leader on the field too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

What we need is to bring Russ Grimm in as our OL coach, he's know to turn around OL overnite look at Pittsburgh and Arizona. The other thing that we need and the reason we can't score on the redzone is an impact WR. For the defense a DE, FS, DB.

If we don't have the players then there is not much anyone can do. That's on the front office. Wade, Fabini and Heyer are not full time starters and they all got manhandled yesterday. Kendall got pushed around too. It might get real ugly on Thurs. The coaches had better adjust and go to a max protection scheme. Yesterday it looked like we wre trying to get 4-5 guys out in the patterns.

[SmootSmack]

We miss Sellers and Thrash for their blocking abilities. It doesn't help the issues on our o-line, but they (especially Sellers) are critical to our blocking game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I specifically made it point to watch Fabini and Wade. They are both good back-ups at best. I think both should be on the team next year, but not starting. Wade is always, I mean always banged up. He can't stay healthy for an entire series it seems. Also, Pete Kendall has slowed down a bit since the beginning of the season. He's moving on two ailing knees and I'm not sure how much more they dope them up to keep him going. Don't get me wrong, he's not terribly but has seemed to lose some gas as of late.

Samuels is still solid. No real complaints there. He's a real leader on the field too.

Man you hit it right on the head with Wade. He gets hurt before the damn ball is snapped. Now we see why Houston let the guy walk. I know people (including myself) wants a pass rusher but the o-line needs a serious shot of youth.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

It was the worst performance I have ever seen from our O-line. No holes for Portis, getting blown off the line of scrimmage, missed blocks in pass protection, false starts at critical times etc. We definitely should use our mid and late round picks on O-linemen. Unfortunately, we need help at DE, possibly at DT, and at FS.

I think we are OK at FS...
Doughty is no Taylor , but he seems to be good, maybe not Pro Bowl caliber good but def. an effective starter...but he did good job getting to the ball...he didn't get burned on anything deep. I think G. Williams can adjust the scheme to fit Reed into the system permanently.

I am all about the trenches...good teams win the game in the trenches, of all the changes the game has undergone over the last ten-twenty years, that's the one thing that has remained the same...I hope we go all line in the draft this year, maybe even in FA as well...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

I think we are OK at FS...
Doughty is no Taylor , but he seems to be good, maybe not Pro Bowl caliber good but def. an effective starter...but he did good job getting to the ball...he didn't get burned on anything deep. I think G. Williams can adjust the scheme to fit Reed into the system permanently.

I am all about the trenches...good teams win the game in the trenches, of all the changes the game has undergone over the last ten-twenty years, that's the one thing that has remained the same...I hope we go all line in the draft this year, maybe even in FA as well...

Well I'll throw out what I've been laughed at for (by a few here, I'm keeping a list ) the past three years here.

What about moving Shawn Springs to safety...a la Rod Woodson.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I specifically made it point to watch Fabini and Wade. They are both good back-ups at best. I think both should be on the team next year, but not starting. Wade is always, I mean always banged up. He can't stay healthy for an entire series it seems. Also, Pete Kendall has slowed down a bit since the beginning of the season. He's moving on two ailing knees and I'm not sure how much more they dope them up to keep him going. Don't get me wrong, he's not terribly but has seemed to lose some gas as of late.

Samuels is still solid. No real complaints there. He's a real leader on the field too.

This is why I think we take the best OG available with our second pick this year.

[firstdown]

I'd love to know how many times we have run that jumbo package and how many yards we have gained. I'm guess around 30 times and about 2 yards.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Fabini and Wade are just a disaster. I had some hope when Heyer came in for a play or two, but Wade was determined to suck and came back in the game. It was the o-line's worst game of the season.

They are. I was at the game and to watch it in person, I just couldn't see anywhere to run. I feel for CP. He's the one that catches the heat. No holes whatsoever. Injuries or not, you've got to do a better job that that. Our backups are not young, developing, talented players they are older castoff's and cuts that are hanging on. We have a severe lack of depth in alot of places but especially on our oline.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If we don't have the players then there is not much anyone can do. That's on the front office. Wade, Fabini and Heyer are not full time starters and they all got manhandled yesterday. Kendall got pushed around too. It might get real ugly on Thurs. The coaches had better adjust and go to a max protection scheme. Yesterday it looked like we wre trying to get 4-5 guys out in the patterns.

To be fair they weren't intended to be. They were brought in as depth, not starters. Nobody could have predicted we would have had so many injuries up front. If anything it's amazing that they've held together as well as they have.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think up front is where we might have seen the effects of the incredibly mentally draining week.

The OL looked out of gas from the start and the breakdowns in protection seemed to me to signal a lack of focus.

We should have been able to pound it on them all day long.

I fully concur. MOre than any other unit, the O line needs to practice & look at film & get coaching to learn the other team's tendencies. They looked like they didn't have any idea where the blitzes were coming from. I would think that their study time this past week was seriously less than usual. The coaches probably didn't get to put together much of a game plan for them as well.

NOt to mention, they couldn't blow anybody off the line to give cp some holes.

[squrrelco3]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I'll throw out what I've been laughed at for (by a few here, I'm keeping a list ) the past three years here.

What about moving Shawn Springs to safety...a la Rod Woodson.

That doens't sound all that far fetched...I believe it was even talked about by the coaching staff some wasn't it?...

I think he'd make a great safety and would do excellent in deep coverage, which seems to be Doughty's biggest weak point...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by squrrelco3

That doens't sound all that far fetched...I believe it was even talked about by the coaching staff some wasn't it?...

I think he'd make a great safety and would do excellent in deep coverage, which seems to be Doughty's biggest weak point...

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