Goodbye Doughty, Hello Horton!

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well good, let's hope Doughty blows out his knee so Horton can play, or maybe he can singlehandedly causes our team to lose a game so he can be benched.

:frusty:

My God you really love Doughty that much? Well ets play Doughty the next 2 seasons until his contract expires. ( I guess that will satisfy you)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by vallin21

My God you really love Doughty that much? Well ets play Doughty the next 2 seasons until his contract expires. ( I guess that will satisfy you)

Nah, just saying to keep you people happy. I mean if the coaches are not willing to take him out as you all want, then maybe fate can intervene on your behalf. I mean he's a terrible player, no?

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Nah, just saying to keep you people happy. I mean if the coaches are not willing to take him out as you all want, then maybe fate can intervene on your behalf. I mean he's a terrible player, no?

Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.

Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.

ESPN - Arizona vs. Washington - Recap - September 21, 2008

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.

Watch the play again. Doughty was the deep safety on that particular pass. He is a liability in coverage and doesn't have the natural ability that Landry has, to make up for his lack of coverage skills.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well according to ESPN:
"The Cardinals tied the score again on the game's first offensive play of more than 20 yards. Fitzgerald, who last week had a 75-yard touchdown reception, sped past Reed Doughty and LaRon Landry on a post route for a 62-yard scoring pass."

But what do they know? It's all Doughty.

ESPN - Arizona vs. Washington - Recap - September 21, 2008

Since when does ESPN get anything right (sorry SmootSmack)? But if you go back and watch the play we were in a two-deep scheme meaning Doughty was responsible for one half of the field and Landry the other half. Fitzgerald was on Doughty's half of the field, thus making Doughty responsible for coverage, not Landry.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Since when does ESPN get anything right (sorry SmootSmack)? But if you go back and watch the play we were in a two-deep scheme meaning Doughty was responsible for one half of the field and Landry the other half. Fitzgerald was on Doughty's half of the field, thus making Doughty responsible for coverage, not Landry.

Well to be clear, that's an Associated Press report, not an ESPN one. So you'll see the same thing on SI.com, CBSSports.com, Yahoo Sports, FoxSports.com, etc.

But I don't see where it says that anyway

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Maybe not terrible, but he did get burned right down the middle of the field for a 60+ yard touchdown today. I'm afraid to see what happens next week when he's covering the deep middle against T.O.

He's not a future HOF who will never get beat (especially by one of the best wr's in the league). But how about his tackles all over the field, his half a forced fumble (I know, ff are only awarded to one player and Rocky will probably get the stat) plus the fact that the safety tandem limited the high powered Cards to only 1 play over 19 yards. Neither Horton nor Doughty will be in the Pro Bowl anytime in the next decade but both can be exceptional role players on a really good defense.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by rypper11

Neither Horton nor Doughty will be in the Pro Bowl anytime in the next decade but both can be exceptional role players on a really good defense.

You are correct in regards to Doughty, but what have you seen from Horton in his first three games that makes you so sure he is not a potential pro bowler? All I've seen is Horton putting himself in position to make plays, and a natural ability to be around the ball, often.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

You are correct in regards to Doughty, but what have you seen from Horton in his first three games that makes you so sure he is not a potential pro bowler? All I've seen is Horton putting himself in position to make plays, and a natural ability to be around the ball, often.

Ok, Horton had a good game last week but saying he has a natural ability to be around the ball from that one game is a stretch. One ball was batted up and he happened to be in the area were it came down and the fumble sat on the ground waiting for anyone to hope on the ball for an easy recovery. I cannot remeber the third but I think it was an over thrown ball which hit him right in the arms. I'm not complaining he deserved all the praise but I'm not read to call him a turn over machine just yet.