Willie Parker a Skin

CRedskinsRule · 04-03-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

People who think that it is business as usual have no idea what they are talking about. When you sign proven players to one year deals you are creating a competitive environment. One year incentive laden deals are the best possible contract for the team. The player has no advantage in that situation.

Fast Willie isn't guaranteed the #1 spot at all. He probably has more to overcome than Portis and Johnson. Some people hate Portis so they ignore the facts.

Portis is the youngest of the three. Portis has a great track record in this coach's system. Portis' injury was a concussion not a blown out knee and I believe he would have come back earlier if they had anything to play for. I would argue that Portis has less doubts than Johnson and Parker.

Let the other team's fans say what they want. When our runningbacks are dumptrucking them you can laugh at all of them.

All good points, what these two signings do is put very talented players in a highly competitive state, through financial incentives, with CP who really has no financial incentive. It is up to the coaches to get the best out of every player on the team, and if CP views this as a wake up call and participates and outperforms the other two the team wins, if he doesn't bounce back and either of the other two meet their incentives, the team still wins. Excellent for fans of the team, not necessarily for fans(or haters) of a specific player.

53Fan · 04-03-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

People who think that it is business as usual have no idea what they are talking about. When you sign proven players to one year deals you are creating a competitive environment. One year incentive laden deals are the best possible contract for the team. The player has no advantage in that situation.

Fast Willie isn't guaranteed the #1 spot at all. He probably has more to overcome than Portis and Johnson. Some people hate Portis so they ignore the facts.

Portis is the youngest of the three. Portis has a great track record in this coach's system. Portis' injury was a concussion not a blown out knee and I believe he would have come back earlier if they had anything to play for. I would argue that Portis has less doubts than Johnson and Parker.

Let the other team's fans say what they want. When our runningbacks are dumptrucking them you can laugh at all of them.

I agree. I don't particulary like Portis, but this is straight up telling it like it is. It's all about competition.

halodoc · 04-03-2010, 01:11 PM

No way all three are on roster on day one .

tryfuhl · 04-03-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Willie is the best back-up ever! (ha ha ha!)

Ok, here are the stats, Portis is better in the following categories: Yards per carry, yards per game, double digit TD seasons, over 1,200 yard seasons, 20+ yard carries, 40+ yard carries, 3 times as many receiving yards, and a WAY higher passer rating (lol).

Both have 2 pro-bowls, but CPs last one is more recent.

People are silly. They think of "Fast Willie" and grin, talking about how he should take CP's place when Portis is better in every statistical category that matters. Think about it. Willie's best season was 1,494 yards in 2006. Portis had 1,487 in 2008 with a crappy o-line. He's also got 3 seasons in the 1,500s... so to me there is no comparison. AND HE'S A YEAR YOUNGER THAN WILLIE!?!?!?

did anybody here say that he was better than Portis?

Zerohero · 04-03-2010, 03:09 PM

I don't know how anyone who has been watching the last two years can have any faith in Portis as a starting rb. That being said, this competition might get him riled up enough to care and produce. Maybe we didn't sign 2 great rbs, but they pretty good with star potential.

tootergray34 · 04-03-2010, 03:10 PM

probably means we won't go RB until next year's draft...which is fine...we have other more important needs to address...such as QB.

Kindoy · 04-03-2010, 03:24 PM

this move pretty much eliminates drafting a back this year. we only have 5 picks and have to do the most with what we have.

Run first teams usually average well over 30 rush attempts per game so i don't see why these three backs couldn't share carries. of course one of the three would have to take more of a backseat but they would still see the field a fair amount of times.

my point is that we don't HAVE to cut any of these backs and they could all make the team. this three back system can work. this is a win-win situation for the team, either CP wakes up and returns to his old form or he gets out performed and we have a better rusher in the backfield.

NYCskinfan82 · 04-03-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I couldn't find it last night but thankfully found it today. I found this very interesting.

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Good info, i just think we have bigger needs than QB right now.

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

All good points, what these two signings do is put very talented players in a highly competitive state, through financial incentives, with CP who really has no financial incentive. It is up to the coaches to get the best out of every player on the team, and if CP views this as a wake up call and participates and outperforms the other two the team wins, if he doesn't bounce back and either of the other two meet their incentives, the team still wins. Excellent for fans of the team, not necessarily for fans(or haters) of a specific player.

Portis does have about 3 - 4 million of incentive to be on the team this year.

12thMan · 04-03-2010, 03:45 PM

Some of you guys make it sound like Portis, Johnson, and Parker are washed up and done. We're talking about a group that's barely 30 years of age. One could argue that Johnson has the least wear and tear of the bunch. The point isn't which one will be great by himself, but the possibility of them being great together.

If we can get 1,800 yards combined out from this combo, it was well worth not drafting a big name running back this time around. As far as Parker goes, he's a true change of pace back for the Skins, and I'd take him over Rock or Betts any day of the week.

We are very quietly having a solid off season.

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by halodoc

No way all three are on roster on day one .

An injury could make this true but I don't agree with you if Portis is ready to work.

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerohero

I don't know how anyone who has been watching the last two years can have any faith in Portis as a starting rb. That being said, this competition might get him riled up enough to care and produce. Maybe we didn't sign 2 great rbs, but they pretty good with star potential.

He was leading the league in rushing deep into '08.

He is better than people are giving him credit for.

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Some of you guys make it sound like Portis, Johnson, and Parker are washed up and done. We're talking about a group that's barely 30 years of age. One could argue that Johnson has the least wear and tear of the bunch. The point isn't which one will be great by himself, but the possibility of them being great together.

If we can get 1,800 yards combined out from this combo, it was well worth not drafting a big name running back this time around. As far as Parker goes, he's a true change of pace back for the Skins, and I'd take him over Rock or Betts any day of the week.

We are very quietly having a solid off season.

Basically they have it all at runningback right now. All are experienced.

Portis is the combo back, he can also be the workhorse. Johnson is a good short yardage option and could be the workhorse. Parker seems to be the perfect 3rd down and change of pace speed back. I wouldn't want Parker to be the workhorse but he has done it before.

I feel like we can go into the draft with the runningback position covered from top to bottom.

Lotus · 04-03-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Some of you guys make it sound like Portis, Johnson, and Parker are washed up and done. We're talking about a group that's barely 30 years of age. One could argue that Johnson has the least wear and tear of the bunch. The point isn't which one will be great by himself, but the possibility of them being great together.

If we can get 1,800 yards combined out from this combo, it was well worth not drafting a big name running back this time around. As far as Parker goes, he's a true change of pace back for the Skins, and I'd take him over Rock or Betts any day of the week.

We are very quietly having a solid off season.

That's an insightful truism.

Pocket$ $traight · 04-03-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Some of you guys make it sound like Portis, Johnson, and Parker are washed up and done. We're talking about a group that's barely 30 years of age. One could argue that Johnson has the least wear and tear of the bunch. The point isn't which one will be great by himself, but the possibility of them being great together.

If we can get 1,800 yards combined out from this combo, it was well worth not drafting a big name running back this time around. As far as Parker goes, he's a true change of pace back for the Skins, and I'd take him over Rock or Betts any day of the week.

We are very quietly having a solid off season.

Basically they have it all at runningback right now. All are experienced.

Portis is the combo back, he can also be the workhorse. Johnson is a good short yardage option and could be the workhorse. Parker seems to be the perfect 3rd down and change of pace speed back. I wouldn't want Parker to be the workhorse but he has done it before.

I feel like we can go into the draft with the runningback position covered from top to bottom.

04-03-2010, 01:11 PM	#138
halodoc Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: md Age: 44 Posts: 71	Re: Willie Parker a Skin No way all three are on roster on day one . __________________ i like pie !

04-03-2010, 03:09 PM	#140
Zerohero Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: phoenix, az Age: 46 Posts: 901	Re: Willie Parker a Skin I don't know how anyone who has been watching the last two years can have any faith in Portis as a starting rb. That being said, this competition might get him riled up enough to care and produce. Maybe we didn't sign 2 great rbs, but they pretty good with star potential.

04-03-2010, 03:10 PM	#141
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Willie Parker a Skin probably means we won't go RB until next year's draft...which is fine...we have other more important needs to address...such as QB.

04-03-2010, 03:24 PM	#142
Kindoy The Starter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Culver City, CA Posts: 1,013	Re: Willie Parker a Skin this move pretty much eliminates drafting a back this year. we only have 5 picks and have to do the most with what we have. Run first teams usually average well over 30 rush attempts per game so i don't see why these three backs couldn't share carries. of course one of the three would have to take more of a backseat but they would still see the field a fair amount of times. my point is that we don't HAVE to cut any of these backs and they could all make the team. this three back system can work. this is a win-win situation for the team, either CP wakes up and returns to his old form or he gets out performed and we have a better rusher in the backfield. __________________ RIP 21

04-03-2010, 03:45 PM	#145
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Willie Parker a Skin Some of you guys make it sound like Portis, Johnson, and Parker are washed up and done. We're talking about a group that's barely 30 years of age. One could argue that Johnson has the least wear and tear of the bunch. The point isn't which one will be great by himself, but the possibility of them being great together. If we can get 1,800 yards combined out from this combo, it was well worth not drafting a big name running back this time around. As far as Parker goes, he's a true change of pace back for the Skins, and I'd take him over Rock or Betts any day of the week. We are very quietly having a solid off season.

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