LOL @ Redskins

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Thats the beauty of the parrot. People have to go out of their way to steal your avatar.

I'm still reppin Pineapple Jesus till the day the site shuts down. (if that ever happens)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm still reppin Pineapple Jesus till the day the site shuts down. (if that ever happens)

It will eventually, hopefully later rather than sooner. Probably when forums become obsolete and some different trend takes over the net.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It will eventually, hopefully later rather than sooner. Probably when forums become obsolete and some different trend takes over the net.

3D forums? Virtual reality threads? Hehehe

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

3D forums? Virtual reality threads? Hehehe

If I knew what it was I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you guys. Well maybe talking to you guys, from my penthouse suite at the Bellagio.

[CrazyCanuck]

The Eagles would have beaten any team in the NFL by at least 10 points last night IMO. Vick was that good, it was QB perfection. In fact if someone can find a video of a bad play he made last night I'd love to see it cuz I don't remember a single one. That being said...

Sorry to but I can't help but question the 3-4 again. I think 90% here agree the current roster is much better suited for the 4-3. I just picture a DL of Carter, Orakpo, LoAx, and a MOTIVATED AH. Plus the first three guys are athletic enough that we could use a lot of "exotic looks" with the DLs dropping back into coverage etc.

Another problem I see with the 3-4 is its complexity. I'm no X O expert but what I like about the 3-4 is all the different looks you can show at the line. It can make things very confusing for the opposing offense. The flip side is that it can also be confusing for the defense. Guys are switching positions and assignments from play to play and you really need some cerebral guys out there who know what the hell is going on, otherwise a good offense will make you run around like chickens. Unfortunately Fletcher is the only guy with a brain on this D (maybe Rak and Los too), and Hall and Landry ain't winning a Nobel Prize in physics anytime soon.

Maybe it just takes time/players like others keep saying (I sure hope so). But couldn't we have started with a 4-3 and transitioned to a 3-4 as the right players were added? Plus where are we getting all these players from? We need 4 OLs at least!

Whatever... rant over.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

1. Fire Hastlett hire Wade Phillips or Mike Zimmerman 2 real good 3-4 defensive coordinators
2. Draft 1 of the top 3 WR prospects A.J. Green (UGA), Alshon Jefferies (SC) or Julio Jones (ALA)
3. Draft O-line badly especially C Rabach is garbage and get younger everywhere we can

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

The McNabb trade gave them our 2010 2nd, so I believe we do have a 2nd round pick. It also gave philly a 3rd or 4th in 2011. Plus the J. Brown trade was conditional as well I believe, think a 4th or 5th but not sure.

Anyways, w/our 1st & 2nd we may be able to trade back & get some more picks later in the 2nd, I expect Allen to look to make some deals on draft day. He did a good job of getting more late round picks in the last draft, let's see if he can get more 1st day picks next year.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I couldn't disagree more. Hastlett isn't the reason we are getting absolutely gashed every week. You have to have the players, and we dont, bottom line.
We only have a 1st, no 2nd, can't remember if we have 3rd, or 4th. We need to draft offensive lineman. Stop going after the flashy picks. The WR dont amount to shit if the QB is running for his life every play.
Rabach is as good as the two guards beside him. Which neither one of them is worth a damn. So it isn't all on Rabach. the whole unit sucks.
We have zero identity upfront. I am wondering if these coaches can find a way to maximize the guys up front and call to their strenghts, because what ever they are doing isn't working for crap. Quicker 3 step drops, more slants, some more screens. Something to get the ball out of McNabbs hands quicker.

Bull puckey! Haslett sucks, man. You can slice this shit anyway you want to. I doubt or at least hopes he's not here next year. We can talk talent all day long, brother, but the Skins have given up over 30 points or more four times this season! We've gone from a top ten (maybe top fifteen) defense to dead last in a year?!

I know that Shanahan is a good coach, but I am not a fan at all and am less than impressed with Kyle. It's completely absurd the Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway are still on this NFL roster 8 games into the season. Why not just bring up Austin to see what he's got? I mean really, is he going to do worse than zero catches? It's beyond me how you have a very capable, if not great, Derrick Dockery inactive every week while KL plays turn style with defensive tackles every game. Sure this team has missing pieces, but what team doesn't?

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Bull puckey! Haslett sucks, man. You can slice this shit anyway you want to. I doubt or at least hopes he's not here next year. We can talk talent all day long, brother, but the Skins have given up over 30 points or more four times this season! We've gone from a top ten (maybe top fifteen) defense to dead last in a year?!

I know that Shanahan is a good coach, but I am not a fan at all and am less than impressed with Kyle. It's completely absurd the Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway are still on this NFL roster 8 games into the season. Why not just bring up Austin to see what he's got? I mean really, is he going to do worse than zero catches? It's beyond me how you have a very capable, if not great, Derrick Dockery inactive every week while KL plays turn style with defensive tackles every game. Sure this team has missing pieces, but what team doesn't?

I'm guessing the guys that can't see the field have the talent (more than the guys on the field), but their work ethic is keeping them on the sidelines. I get the feeling Shanahan favors work ethic over talent.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Bull puckey! Haslett sucks, man. You can slice this shit anyway you want to. I doubt or at least hopes he's not here next year. We can talk talent all day long, brother, but the Skins have given up over 30 points or more four times this season! We've gone from a top ten (maybe top fifteen) defense to dead last in a year?!

I know that Shanahan is a good coach, but I am not a fan at all and am less than impressed with Kyle. It's completely absurd the Roydell Williams and Joey Galloway are still on this NFL roster 8 games into the season. Why not just bring up Austin to see what he's got? I mean really, is he going to do worse than zero catches? It's beyond me how you have a very capable, if not great, Derrick Dockery inactive every week while KL plays turn style with defensive tackles every game. Sure this team has missing pieces, but what team doesn't?

You have to understand we dont have the studs upfront to be a successful 3-4 right now. And I dont believe we have the LB's to play it either. Beside Orakpo and Fletcher, the other two are playing out of position. When you dont have the personel the D is going to struggle, that is fact. this team was built with the personel to run a 4-3. The coaches should have recognized that and played the 4-3 until we had the people to switch. Hastlett has done a pretty decent job in the NFL of coaching defenses.
I agree about the WR. They are crap. Galloway is horrible. He does nothing for the offense. You can't tell me that Thomas was worse than Galloway. I bet they are kicking themselves for putting Kelly on IR, when he could be helping right now. We had opportunity to address the issue at WR and we didn't.
Dockery, have no clue why he isn't playing. Shanny drafted the guy playing LG, so i guess that has something to do with it. but have a hard time believing Dockery is as bad or worse than this dude.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

The Eagles would have beaten any team in the NFL by at least 10 points last night IMO. Vick was that good, it was QB perfection. In fact if someone can find a video of a bad play he made last night I'd love to see it cuz I don't remember a single one. That being said...

Sorry to but I can't help but question the 3-4 again. I think 90% here agree the current roster is much better suited for the 4-3. I just picture a DL of Carter, Orakpo, LoAx, and a MOTIVATED AH. Plus the first three guys are athletic enough that we could use a lot of "exotic looks" with the DLs dropping back into coverage etc.

Another problem I see with the 3-4 is its complexity. I'm no X O expert but what I like about the 3-4 is all the different looks you can show at the line. It can make things very confusing for the opposing offense. The flip side is that it can also be confusing for the defense. Guys are switching positions and assignments from play to play and you really need some cerebral guys out there who know what the hell is going on, otherwise a good offense will make you run around like chickens. Unfortunately Fletcher is the only guy with a brain on this D (maybe Rak and Los too), and Hall and Landry ain't winning a Nobel Prize in physics anytime soon.

Maybe it just takes time/players like others keep saying (I sure hope so). But couldn't we have started with a 4-3 and transitioned to a 3-4 as the right players were added? Plus where are we getting all these players from? We need 4 OLs at least!

Whatever... rant over.

CC your rant would have to go some to rival that of Chad Dukes yesterday, even LaVar was lost for words. Phillip Daniels even took time to weigh-in with a response.

[skinsfan69]

THIS TEAM NEEDS TO BE GUTTED LIKE A FISH. Nothing worse than having an old team that is below average. Clean house. From the QB, to anyone that is older than 25. I'd even get rid of Shanahan and his dorky looking son. I want a guy like Raheem Morris who can communicate with the young players, knows how to handle them and would be in for a rebuilding project. This team isn't going ANYWHERE with the current group. TIME TO REBUILD, NOT RE LOAD.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

THIS TEAM NEEDS TO BE GUTTED LIKE A FISH. Nothing worse than having an old team that is below average. Clean house. From the QB, to anyone that is older than 25. I'd even get rid of Shanahan and his dorky looking son. I want a guy like Raheem Morris who can communicate with the young players, knows how to handle them and would be in for a rebuilding project. This team isn't going ANYWHERE with the current group. TIME TO REBUILD, NOT RE LOAD.

Is that you Chad?

[MTK]

With all the change we've had under Snyder, I really can't believe some are advocating for even more change. Can we just get something in place and let it ride for a few years? The constant change is what our main problem has been. Change at QB, change with the coaches, front office, etc.

Amazing that some don't see that, really amazing.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

CC your rant would have to go some to rival that of Chad Dukes yesterday, even LaVar was lost for words. Phillip Daniels even took time to weigh-in with a response.

Seriously why do folks listen to chad dukes? He knows as much about sports as my mom. The guy is a loser I don't care what he says.

He is just there to give color for Lavar, even when Chad was with the Junkies he hardly talked about Sports, it was always his self loathing comedy.